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Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by kitsunesoba »

ngrilly wrote: post #476
kitsunesoba wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's definitely subjective. For my usage/preferences, the Windows taskbar and alt-tab switcher scale extremely poorly. They drive me to keep no more than 3-4 windows open, because any additional windows beyond that make my desktop progressively more difficult to manage which feels utterly absurd on a tower with a 5950X and 32GB of RAM which I should feel empowered to heavily multitask with.

Good point. Never thought about it. Probably did not use Windows long enough. What is not scaling well with that model? The miniatures are taking too much vertical space when hovering an app icon in the task bar?

For the taskbar, what doesn’t scale nicely is its window buttons.

Keeping the taskbar in its icon only default mode makes it basically like the Mac dock, which isn’t too bad, except that having more than one window open in a program which causes the button to “stack” for each window, then requiring an additional click or an awkward hover-dance to surface one of that program’s windows. If I disable stacking and enable window names, making it like the Win9x taskbar, I get back single click window summoning but the taskbar fills up very quickly and becomes noisy. Either way comes with drawbacks.

Alt-tab scales badly simply because of the sheer number of tab-taps it takes to switch to any given window when you have more than a handful of windows open. Without any logical grouping (like with macOS Command-Tab app grouping), it gets too full too quickly.

Windows also lacks a universal shortcut to cycle through only windows of a single application (Command-` on macOS) which I often miss.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by smoldesu »

rubyist5eva wrote: post #469
smoldesu wrote: post #355

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Is Parallels that much faster?

In my experience using linux vms mainly for database workloads Parallels is nearly 10x faster than both UTM using Qemu and even Apple Virtualization (just tested it this morning using Ventura and the latest UTM 4.0 version with Ventura updates).

Interesting, I didn't know you could even get better performance than properly-configured QEMU. Are you sure you had GPU passthrough enabled?

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by tinus_hn »

samuelstros wrote: post #480
tinus_hn wrote: post #479

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So when you start asking questions, that terrible UI becomes a subtle UX difference. That’s why this is all armchair designery about pet issues. You may like the way Windows works, that’s fine. But that doesn’t mean MacOS works ‘terribly’. It’s mostly just different from what you’re used to.

What is your intention? Nobody said that macOS has "terrible UI". Some people expressed that the window management in MacOS is inferior to Windows. I laid out UX reasons why macOS window management is inferior to Windows. I will not participate in further discussion.

Upon review that is correct, apparently I confused this thread with another one.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by samuelstros »

tinus_hn wrote: post #483
samuelstros wrote: post #480

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your intention? Nobody said that macOS has "terrible UI". Some people expressed that the window management in MacOS is inferior to Windows. I laid out UX reasons why macOS window management is inferior to Windows. I will not participate in further discussion.

Upon review that is correct, apparently I confused this thread with another one.

Thanks for the clarification. I was irritated about the goal of the discussion :)

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by dewey »

rz2k wrote: post #25
galoisscobi wrote: post #9

I’m usually excited about macOS releases but this one is an underwhelming update and don’t see any reason to update any time soon. Stage manager seems like a half measure to introduce better window management in macOS and it doesn’t help that it doesn’t support a keyboard only workflow, from what I can tell from the demos. Coming from i3wm, I found Yabai to be an excellent keyboard-first window manager. I do wish som…

Historically, the uninspiring and underwhelming major releases of OS X and macOS have ended up being the ones that users ended up having the most positive feelings about over the long term. They have tended to focus on faster performance, refining past features, and security improvements without the simultaneous introduction of fresh annoyances. However, since you aren't really missing anything in terms of new featur…

Based on the reviews and the public betas this isn't the "Snow Leopard" release that everyone is always waiting for.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by Tagbert »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #118
chongli wrote: post #23

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Finder -> Preferences -> Advanced. When performing a search: Search the current folder

Agreed. Its an embarrasment. Use Alfred; I've been using it for years (10 maybe?) -- solves this problem and is extremely useful in general

It’s an easy configuration change to default the search to the current folder. Alfred is great on it’s own but not needed to fix this.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by Tagbert »

behnamoh wrote: post #315
chongli wrote: post #23

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Finder -> Preferences -> Advanced. When performing a search: Search the current folder

Why isn't this the default setting? I mean, who searches their entire machine when they're inside a folder?

@hwbehrens lays out the likely reason in an earlier post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33321978

Short answer Large number of users don’t use folders to organize their files. They just depend on searching everywhere to find files that may have dropped in any random location. Those people are less likely to find the setting that makes current folder the default search target.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by natch »

wlonkly wrote: post #321
natch wrote: post #182

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in Terminal: find . -type f -name “ somestring ” but yeah that seems like more typing than one might want compared to a simple text entry field in the GUI.

For what it's worth, the terminal interface to the Spotlight database is "mdfind". It still doesn't solve GP's "only this directory" problem though. (But your "find" will search in and below the current directory for files that exactly match "somestring".)

>For what it's worth, the terminal interface to the Spotlight database is "mdfind".

Yeah I realize that, but find is a stronger tool for the use case because it also allows wildcards to be specified in the name.

>your "find" will search in and below

Your "mdfind" will also search in and below the current directory.

find also has -depth which can be used to tell it to search only this directory.

mdfind has -onlyin to tell it what directory to search in, but it still recurses down. Does it have an option to limit this? Please do tell.

>for files that exactly match "somestring"

Well find also allows wildcards though. So not necessarily exactly… somestring is just an example.

Does mdfind allow wildcards?

Also find is fun to combine with grep to inspect file contents, especially since it has the -print0 option…

    find . -type f -name "*.py" -print0 | xargs -0 grep somestring
Please tell me how to do this with mdfind, I would love to know!
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