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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#482I’ve been burglarized 4 times, in 4 different cities, in 2 US states, and once in Europe. I’ve lived in SF twice and in a few other Bay Area cities, and I honestly can’t tell you that my personal experience with crime in SF is all that different from the norm in most urban areas. There are places I’ve lived which seem devoid of crime, but these places seem to have more community in common than leadership or laws. Alt…
I’m 50 and have lived in 11+ cities over my lifetime. I’ve never been robbed. How is it that one person can get robbed 4 times and another no times? It’s not like I’ve ever lived in a gated community or anything like that.
People do different things and hang out with different people and that has big effects on their experience of life.
One of my friends when I moved to Shanghai has been in multiple fights in or near bars. I had never had that happen to me. During the next two years as I acquired an active social life involving a great deal of alcohol and spending a lot of time around a friend who does not back down and has a strong sense of personal honour and virtue I was threatened with a baseball bat and got the world’s tiniest stab wound. After my friend calmed down and went out and drank less I just don’t experience this stuff anymore. The variety of human experience is large.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#483Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dunno, I think Chicago is certainly more walkable and less car-dependent than SF. Then you have DC, which probably is (substantially more public transit at least) as well, and even cities like Minneapolis which are probably more amenable to walking over a larger area than the actual core, downtown SF area. SF has ok public transit for the west coast I suppose. But overall it’s quite poor compared to the east coast…
Yeah but walking in Chicago in the winter weather?
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#484Earlier quoted context omitted.
> openly evading Subway fares Nobody has ever cared about this (nor should they, IMO; disclaimer: I have never lived in NYC). Occasionally journalists go to NYC to interview random residents about fare evasion, and the main response is a shrug. Frankly, we’d all be generally better off with free public transit. Governments end up paying most of the bill anyway, and increasing transit use would be a big benefit to tho…
> Frankly, we’d all be generally better off with free public transit. Governments end up paying most of the bill anyway, and increasing transit use would be a big benefit to those most needing help. Not for long. If you turn public transit into a de facto homeless shelter people who have other options will avoid it. No country with good public transport has it free.
Luxembourg has fare-free transit nationwide. Estonia’s capital Tallinn (a city of >400k residents) has fare-free public transit. Dozens (maybe hundreds?) of other cities around the world have made transit free. In the US, Kansas City has fare-free streetcars and bus system, and many other cities are starting experiments with fare-free transit. Generally residents and city officials are happy with the results.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
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Tech workers can't commit wage theft.
I wouldn't consider tech workers rich, rich people tend to own significant assets, often businesses, and don't have to work.
Make no mistake, tech workers are rich. Many small business owners (who do commit lots of wage theft) have fewer assets and lower incomes. Also, tech workers don't commit very many crimes.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#486Earlier quoted context omitted.
What thefts do software engineers regularly get away with? I've never heard of a software engineer committing wage theft, for example. I'm not saying that police should hassle someone for sleeping on the street. I'm saying they should arrest people for stealing stuff. That's not harassment. That's justice.
Huh? You don't even know what wage theft is.
I do know what wage theft is, and I am well aware that software engineers aren't generally in a position to do it. The people who commit most of the wage theft are small business owners (who have employees to steal wages from), who are usually poorer than software engineers.
Wage theft is the go-to example of people who say "shoplifting doesn't hold a candle to the thefts the rich do," so I was preempting that argument.
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#487Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the annoying thing about SF is you'd find way more people OK with the idea to not pursue non-violent crimes, defund the police, or reduce police presence because the relationship with community is bad and mass-incarceration is a problem. And they are real problems, but also they are not going to get fixed in a year or even five years. There are certainly good number of people who are balanced in terms of supp…
> And they are real problems, but also they are not going to get fixed in a year or even five years. SF could easily be fixed in a year. Zero tolerance policing, locking up drug abusing vagrants, and broken windows style follow up would work wonders. The problem is that the sheer force of will to get it done simply does not exist. Nobody in power is willing to step up and take the inevitable heat for the action that…
I think at risk of sounding like the people I was criticizing, I think extreme measures in short amount of time is probably not practical, at-least not without unintended negative consequences.
I wont pretend to understand how the whole system works, but I think one thing I understand well is that its all fucking complicated. And it's not as simple as "lock everyone" or "abolish the police".
But I agree, nobody in power is willing to step up and take action.
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#488The weirdest thing I noticed moving to the bay area wasn't SF (have been there a couple times and only saw a little bit of the craziness), it was how different South Bay/Peninsula are from the city I expected the same SF problems you hear about to be issues in that area, and they really aren't (at least where I live) Idk if I would ever move into the city tbh, it just seems like a shithole. I'm sure it's less boring,…
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#489Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the abysmal dating prospects It really is bad, right, and not my imagination? I feel like I’ve wasted a decade of my life here on an endless string of bad first dates with no mutual attraction. It wasn’t like that in other places I’ve lived. I mentioned this to a family member recently, and they said it’s harder because I’m getting older. That’s probably true, but I swear it’s rough in this city. It’s a bit like bu…
I found I had to put in more work to get similar results, from a place that was known to be 'easy' (in hindsight) to a place known to be hard. I found someone in about a year, and although they might not be 'the best', I do love them a lot and we have been together for a long time. Sometimes I wonder if I should've kept on dating sometimes although.
Jesus, I hope your partner doesn’t read HN.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#490I feel like only those who live in San Francisco should comment on this. It's easy to pass judgement from afar, but the situation is, like all situations, difficult to grasp for people who live there, the insiders, and impossible to grasp by anyone else. SF is an incredibly unique place with a unique history and can you really get it if you don't live there?
I’ve lived in a much larger city with a unique, and much longer, history of two millennia. Somehow it’s not crime ridden. Indeed, it’s hard for outsiders to grasp how SF managed to fail so spectacularly.