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Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by tekknik »

ew6082 wrote: post #265
wardedVibe wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord is picking up steam, and doesn't seem to be relying on advertising. They're also way more explicit about making communities rather than friend networks.

The scary part is how much real interpersonal communication data they have on users and what could be done with it in the wrong hands. What is their real business model? It can't just be selling Nitro.

Discord watches what apps you launch, primarily games, and sells this data to others to determine what games to make, or what games people are playing. It’s the same purpose of all the game launchers out there that run even when you’re not playing a game from that company.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by tekknik »

theshrike79 wrote: post #36
saidinesh5 wrote: post #3

I think the "social" part of social networks just moved to group chats. All my friends share updates of their family events, kids' stuff etc.. over Whatsapp and Telegram. Strangers gather over topics that interest them and want to talk about it seem to have moved to discord, slack etc. The whole "broadcast yourself to the world" part of social networks just moved to Tiktok, Twitter, Instagram etc.. I think.

Some people are moving back to anonymous communication with limited audiences. Twitter is anonymous, but 100% public. There is no way to limit your audience to a smaller group. FB is not anonymous and mostly public. Private groups do exist, but you still mostly need to have an actual name on your account. TikTok & Snapchat are mostly for people who show their faces, not anonymous. WhatsApp shows everyone everyone's p…

Twitter is no more anonymous or than FB, Twitter requires a phone number these days. And they verify if it’s an actual number or voip.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by tekknik »

cyphereal wrote: post #397
jethro_tell wrote: post #326

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Lol, the reason the phone number is used as an identifier is because because it's a pain to have more than 1 or 2. It's an anti spam measure not a technology problem. You can key a database by anything unique. Icq used chronological numbers for fuck sake. Blockchain doesn't solve anything here.

It's not the ID, it's that a phone number is relatively difficult to obtain (not hard, but still a limited resource) and unique. A crypto stake / wallet / something of value on the blockchain could easily meet such a criteria if well designed.

Yes could, but why? Why when any topic comes up “Blockchain zomg!!!!111”?

I used to be real hardcore into bitcoin, around the $1-10 range. You people need to give it up already and quit annoying the rest of us by trying to force fit an insanely inefficient technology into every aspect of life.

“Preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by timbit42 »

xbar wrote: post #210
nl wrote: post #195

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Can't search Facebook or TikTok with a search engine. For a lot of people this is a benefit.

Right. Why do I want every community searched?

To find stuff. If most of the stuff is unsearchable, search engines become useless.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by timbit42 »

BbzzbB wrote: post #224
timbit42 wrote: post #72

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I don't like that all the info is locked up and not indexable and searchable on search engines.

>on search engines It's barely searchable on their native search bars too, and with no scoring or back-linking possible you're stuck searching chronologically. That's only viable on a small enough channel + keyword so that results are limited. Otherwise you don't search, you just ask again.

Yes. I have to use a search engine to find YT videos because YT search is so bad.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by garfieldnate »

My family got me to join Marco Polo recently, and it's really what I want from social media. It's a bit clumsy to use the free version, but there aren't any ads, and it facilitates having meaningful connections with a smaller group of people, which is what I'm really missing from the bigger platforms. Facebook quickly became a giant friend collection for me, which is useful for being able to reach out to anyone when I need to, but it never offered a feed sorted by stuff I actually care about: family and truly close friends, and lifetime events like weddings and deaths for the rest.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by dcow »

khyryk wrote: post #283
rTX5CMRXIfFG wrote: post #262

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I had a difficult time trying to understand your writing, but in the end it seems that you’re actually proving the point of the person that you’re disagreeing with? Your example of having 1600 friends and then most people being content with ~10 friends is exactly what the commenter meant with devaluing social connections.

I dunno, it made sense to me. The simplified thesis (perhaps with my own slight spin on it) is that a huge number of connections never really existed, and what's observed as a devaluation of things with inherent value is really more like a realization that the things in question had little to no real value, and a calculus that does assign them great value (without significantly diluting the word "friend") is flawed.

This.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by fwn »

heywoodlh wrote: post #281
midoridensha wrote: post #240

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>I think there's truly a place for a hyper pared down "global phone book" type of application. We have this: Facebook. At least that's what I use it for. I keep a list of most of my friends there, and use it to chat with many of them, including video chat. I don't post anything, ever, and almost never look at anyone else's posts. It's just a glorified "friend phone book and chat app".

I don't have a problem with people using Facebook this way -- that's cool if it fills this function for you! It is unfortunate though that as "a glorified phone book" Facebook engages in so many practices that are creepy and intrusive. I think that if Facebook did just provide phonebook-like functionality I would be so interested in using it. Instead, it feels more like an application(s) built to serve ads that happe…

IMO there is little value in actually quitting facebook.

If you aren't using their apps and block their embeds on third-party sites it just sits there and allows you to be what our parents described as a global phone book.

I deleted everything I uploaded, unfollowed everyone, locked it down and made a backup. Most of their indeed very creepy practices are optional.

edit: this is also probably a good learning for other services: have a working non obstrusive mode to retain almost-off users.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by pms »

theshrike79 wrote: post #36
saidinesh5 wrote: post #3

I think the "social" part of social networks just moved to group chats. All my friends share updates of their family events, kids' stuff etc.. over Whatsapp and Telegram. Strangers gather over topics that interest them and want to talk about it seem to have moved to discord, slack etc. The whole "broadcast yourself to the world" part of social networks just moved to Tiktok, Twitter, Instagram etc.. I think.

Some people are moving back to anonymous communication with limited audiences. Twitter is anonymous, but 100% public. There is no way to limit your audience to a smaller group. FB is not anonymous and mostly public. Private groups do exist, but you still mostly need to have an actual name on your account. TikTok & Snapchat are mostly for people who show their faces, not anonymous. WhatsApp shows everyone everyone's p…

Reddit is anonymous and doing well..
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