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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 10:18 PM UTC

csdvrx wrote: post #453

solarkraft wrote: post #430

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... you need to manually fix it for Windows? Does it ship with Linux or something? Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it, but what an incredible software shit show. Imagine spending millions on hardware R&D only to release a product that's unusable due to terrible software. Why do manufacturers keep doing this?

> Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it Just get one - it's hard to live without it now!! > but what an incredible software shit show. Microsoft didn't deliver the OS they were supposed to (bad) but Windows 11 is everything and more (good) Intel... well, it's Intel. If you go into plane mode before suspend and play with the device manager to restart the device when…

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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by geraldwhen » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 10:22 PM UTC

kitsunesoba wrote: post #356

caycep wrote: post #349

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If not Asus, then who? Asrock - have not had a motherboard go bad...but looking at their website, I'd be wary of trying to get an RMA Gigabyte/MSI all have their own share of complaints.... eVGA? they have stateside support but sometimes the specs aren't as good as Asrock's. PNY?

Have heard almost exclusively good things about EVGA's RMA process. Haven't needed that service myself but from what I've seen/heard they'll replace defective hardware without fighting you about it and the replacement is shipped quickly.

EVGA makes you pay return shipping, and turnaround time is 10-15 days in my experience, depending on how much money you want to spend on shipping.

I’ve exclusively used UPS ground for my evga returns, of which I did 5-10 over the past couple years.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by WaitWaitWha » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 10:31 PM UTC

Lio wrote: post #75

tokamak-teapot wrote: post #71

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Mind sharing which one you have please? I’d like to drop one in my laptop bag sometimes.

I'm not the person you're asking but as Asus already make a range of portable monitors you could try one them: https://www.asus.com/Displays-Desktops/Monitors/ZenScreen/

I have two Asus ZenScreen Go MB16AHP. Comes with built in battery and a bunch of other great features.

For me, both of them stopped charging and refused to work right after warranty ran out. Now they are sitting on my shelf waiting to be cannibalized.

I very much enjoyed these screens. They were response, relatively light, fit into the bag, and with their own battery, I could chug along for hours without issue. Oh the joys of getting ready for meetings in airport lounges!

So, Asus portable monitors for me were great design, not so good implementation.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by liminal » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 10:37 PM UTC

lostlogin wrote: post #404

liminal wrote: post #392

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That must be the problem I had. I gave up using an external monitor because it turned my macbook into a toaster

Was that an Intel toaster or an Apple one? I think the Apple ones don’t get so hot.

That one is/was Intel. Getting a bit long in the tooth, but still my daily driver.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by lizardactivist » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 10:40 PM UTC

mmanfrin wrote: post #421

Cool design, but absolutely never buying an Asus product again. Every single product I've bought from them (router, motherboard, monitor, etc) has broken, and their support system is an absolute nightmare.

That seems very strange, in particular since you appear to suggest you bought so many of them. I mean, what are the odds?

I think you're simply using them wrong or handling them carelessly.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by Jcowell » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 10:50 PM UTC

Terretta wrote: post #244

alistairSH wrote: post #199

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Not nearly 17", but I've found my iPad Pro makes a reasonable second monitor when traveling. It isn't really large enough to want to do work on it - I keep those windows on the main laptop monitor - but it works as a place to drop email/Slack/misc other things.

I advocate this as well. It’s superior in almost all ways to the portable screens of which I’ve tried many, and you also have an iPad, ideally with cellular chip. :-) On many short trips you can leave the actual laptop at home.

The caveat is that to can’t be used without an Apple ID , making it unusable for work devices. (Amazing for personal devices though)

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by drcode » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 11:01 PM UTC

jsheard wrote: post #111

asdajksah2123 wrote: post #84

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Why does it look any more fragile than an iPad, for example?

We haven't solved the "bendable glass" problem yet, so foldable displays are made of soft plastic which is extremely easy to damage compared to the toughened glass you're accustomed to. You can put a permanent dent in them with your fingernail if you're not careful.

Had my Samsung fold3 a full year now, the foldable screen is surprisingly still as good as new

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by Terretta » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 11:02 PM UTC

sudosysgen wrote: post #471

breakfastduck wrote: post #462

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Also considerably more expensive than a monitor.

And considerably worse in every way, especially compared to modern OLEDs and high refresh rate LCDs.

Which is considerably worse, the monitor or the iPad?

Comparing this:

    12.9” mini-LED Liquid Retina XDR display
    2732x2048 resolution at 264 pixels per inch (ppi)
    2D backlighting system with 2596 full‑array local dimming zones
    120 Hz refresh ProMotion technology
    Wide color display (P3)
    True Tone display

    Multi‑Touch input
    Apple Pencil input w/ pressure and tilt sensitivity
    Fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating
    Fully laminated display
    Antireflective coating
    1.8% reflectivity

    SDR brightness: 600 nits max
    XDR brightness: 1000 nits max full screen, 1600 nits peak (HDR content only)
    1,000,000:1 contrast ratio

… to what’s available on Amazon in 4K or 5K screens with no computer (iPad or iMac) attached, I can mostly only buy the LGs for $1400 to $1700, and they don’t work with a stylus. The comp isn’t really a monitor anyway, it’s a Wacom Cintiq Pro.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by happyopossum » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 11:03 PM UTC

sudosysgen wrote: post #471

breakfastduck wrote: post #462

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Also considerably more expensive than a monitor.

And considerably worse in every way, especially compared to modern OLEDs and high refresh rate LCDs.

You clearly haven't seen a modern iPad Pro screen if you think it's inferior 'in every way' to other portable monitors. 120Hz refresh, super high pixel density, amazing color replication, I could go on. they're beautiful.

What high-refresh rate OLED travel monitors are you comparing it to?

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by drcode » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 11:04 PM UTC

bradgranath wrote: post #407

Why do people want foldy screens so bad? I get that they fit in your pocket better, but reading or viewing images through the crease looks awful.

I want something akin to a desktop with a big screen at home, but which I can also bring to a coffee shop. I don't want to have to fiddle with ugly docks, usb monitors, etc. Those things are a PITA.