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Re: U.S. forgives 40k student loans

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Post by MCllorf » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:57 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #448

jatone wrote: post #400

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this isn't targetted relief. this is shit that was already suppose to be done. also regressive stimulus are not even a thing. maybe you're thinking of regressive taxes? which still wouldn't be right.

>also regressive stimulus are not even a thing. maybe you're thinking of regressive taxes? Regressive taxes favor the rich over the poor. By "regressive stimulus" I'm presuming he's talking about stimulus that favors the rich (eg. well off layers/doctors with high student loan debt but high earning potential) over people with modest student loans but low earning potential.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's amazing how easy communication is when your words aren't interpreted in the most obtuse and uncharitable way by extreme progressives

Re: U.S. forgives 40k student loans

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Post by jatone » Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 8:12 PM UTC

MCllorf wrote: post #481

gruez wrote: post #448

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>also regressive stimulus are not even a thing. maybe you're thinking of regressive taxes? Regressive taxes favor the rich over the poor. By "regressive stimulus" I'm presuming he's talking about stimulus that favors the rich (eg. well off layers/doctors with high student loan debt but high earning potential) over people with modest student loans but low earning potential.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's amazing how easy communication is when your words aren't interpreted in the most obtuse and uncharitable way by extreme progressives

words have meaning; using them correctly in context matters. the fact of the matter is the term you used has nothing to do with stimulus'. you were attempting to imply that forgiveness somehow harms the lower classes when it categorically doesnt.

the only person being 'uncharitable' here is you; attempting to label someone calling out your BS position as 'extreme' and then attempting to categorically label an entire political spectrum with the same brush.

Re: U.S. forgives 40k student loans

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Post by sharker8 » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 4:20 PM UTC

mc32 wrote: post #79

sharker8 wrote: post #61

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This create market driven dynamics in which degrees basically are tailor made for industry. This approach disincentivizes pure research for scientific purposes.

You're saying companies DON'T want researchers? In any case, if there is a specific need for specific research, I'm sure the gov can figure out a way to incentivize particular useful tracks which the market ignores. Grants programs, etc.

Companies value people who can apply the scientific method (experimental design, data gathering, data analysis, etc). They hire people who have acquired this specific knowledge often through grants. Whether these subsidies lead to application of the specific knowledge gained through the grant underwriting process is debatable. Companies will hire people who studied something that requires the scientific method for which there is maybe no market, and make them apply that approach to things for which there is a market.