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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#482I fail to see how anyone can seriously listen to Joe Rogan. He has a circus of quacks and conspiracy theorists on the show and when he does occasionally have a legitimate scientist he can barely muster any response beyond “wow that blows my mind”
I used to listen to the "quacks" and the "conspiracy theorists" on Joe Rogan because back in the past most of the conspiracy theorists he had on were pretty harmless... people like Graham Hancock, Jacques Vallee, Stephen Greer. Additionally back in the day he used to have a good balance of scientists and those discussions were interesting esp since he would ask questions from a layman perspective.
I haven't been listening to it in recent months because it seems the show has become has obsessed with covid and is all covid all the time with some comedians thrown in now and then, not to mention Spotify as a platform is kind of a chore to use for podcasts.
Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#483My best guess is that those guests wanted to be removed (they don't want to be associated with the controversy). Or it's just a bug.
No it isn't either. Micheal Malice (who had some episodes where he appeared removed) was unaware of them removing them until someone told him via Twitter. A lot of people aren't going to buy it was a mistake considering the timing.
Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#484I fail to see how anyone can seriously listen to Joe Rogan. He has a circus of quacks and conspiracy theorists on the show and when he does occasionally have a legitimate scientist he can barely muster any response beyond “wow that blows my mind”
Indeed. As I saw someone say a while back Joe Rogan is Gwenyth Paltrow for men and that is spot on.
The biggest problem, for me, with Rogan’s podcast is he brings on people that know nothing about a subject but let’s them talk as if they are some kind of expert. They have long conversations where Rogan as little if anything of value and just let’s a lot of weirdos that will get views ramble on endlessly for 2 hours. Then things get cut and paste around social media and misinformation spreads like wild fire.
A recent example is Dr Jordan Peterson talking about climate change. He lacks even a basic understanding but was sitting there talking about it with the confidence of a climate expert and as he is a Doctor people take him seriously about everything and it’s just god damn awful.
The same problem exists on a lot of “news” shows/channels where they have a genuine expert that has studied a subject for 20+ years and is known and respected world wide and sit them next to someone that read something on Facebook then got very vocal about it as it matched their feelings on the subject.
This whole “we need two sides” concept is bullshit when the two sides are not equals but are presented and treated as equals.
It gives credibility to people that deserve none as they have done nothing to earn it.
I think multiple points of view are extremely important but you need to ensure the people involved are as close to equal as possible with regards to their professional standing and experience. Not some random blogger.
Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#485I guess I incorrectly remember, when the contract was first reported, that any censorship on the part of Spotify would be considered a breach and Rogan could walk away with his show and the $100M payment. Anyone else remember it that way?
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#486Earlier quoted context omitted.
The open web is dead. It's likely Rogan would have been banned from YouTube and Apple Podcasts had he not moved to Spotify. He could have moved to tiny platforms like Odysee or Rokfin that would likely have poor retention rates, or just relied on people adding his URL manually to Apple Podcasts, but come on. Nobody would do that. The "death of the open web" problem isn't creators somehow consistently choosing to empo…
Monolithic platforms are dead. More and more creators will take lesson and put their content under their own brand. Youtbe will be just "dump host" embedded from other domain!
Ive seen that prediction regularly for 20 years. Still waiting.
Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#487I’m struggling to have sympathy with anyone involved in this. Podcasting has always felt like a resurgence of the “original web” spirit to me: anyone can upload, anywhere. All you need is an RSS feed and anyone can subscribe. Then Spotify came busting in and decided that the open podcasting platform is obsolete and paid Joe Rogan $100 million for exclusive distribution of his content. So they’ve dug their own grave h…
The open web is dead. It's likely Rogan would have been banned from YouTube and Apple Podcasts had he not moved to Spotify. He could have moved to tiny platforms like Odysee or Rokfin that would likely have poor retention rates, or just relied on people adding his URL manually to Apple Podcasts, but come on. Nobody would do that. The "death of the open web" problem isn't creators somehow consistently choosing to empo…
> The open web is dead.
As the big money moves into chasing the metaverse, we may get another big wave of innovation in the open web space in the next five years or so.
Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#488Earlier quoted context omitted.
The open web is dead. It's likely Rogan would have been banned from YouTube and Apple Podcasts had he not moved to Spotify. He could have moved to tiny platforms like Odysee or Rokfin that would likely have poor retention rates, or just relied on people adding his URL manually to Apple Podcasts, but come on. Nobody would do that. The "death of the open web" problem isn't creators somehow consistently choosing to empo…
“Nobody would do that“ Back in the day people did exactly that.
A tiny sliver of people, relative to the podcast audience size of today, did that. The people who would still do it now is still a tiny sliver of the potential audience.
Heck I do it, but I do it for very few podcasts that I already know I like, mainly because discovery is so awkward.
Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#489I fail to see how anyone can seriously listen to Joe Rogan. He has a circus of quacks and conspiracy theorists on the show and when he does occasionally have a legitimate scientist he can barely muster any response beyond “wow that blows my mind”
Yes, there are occasional episodes with quacks. But using those to dismiss the whole show is blatantly ignorant.
No - ignorance is downplaying the results of giving quacks a megaphone and an endorsement.
All the Joe Rogans of the world want is audience stats - let him pivot to exposing quacks and continue to take fools money.
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