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Facebook loses users for the first time

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

laumars wrote: post #479
baobabKoodaa wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was your page full of actual hate speech such as "exterminate the jews" or was it full of "hate speech" such as criticizing politicians who happen to be minorities? Same question regarding fake news: was your page full of actual fake news suh as "Elon Musk has died", or was it full of political speech you don't like, such as "wearing masks is not worth the inconvenience"?

Unfortunately most of the arguments against wearing masks are petty and bullshit given that the inconvenience of wearing one is insignificant for most people. Sure, if you have genuine health concerns wearing one then don’t. But most of the people that moaned about it were really just moaning about being told what to do. I had one mum in my kids school quoting the Magna Carta as a reason not to wear masks, which is s…

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by ninjinxo »

ByThyGrace wrote: post #476
elwell wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is for old people. Instagram is for moderately old people. Snapchat is for moderately young people. TikTok is for young people.

Whenever I see this "social network per age group" depiction, Twitter is never mentioned. I wonder why.

Twitter is for robots.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by actuator »

That's why I was commenting last week here that the antitrust lawsuit in US on monopoly is bogus.

Tiktok has come out of nowhere in the span of last few years to compete. FB doesn't have a market capture as the US lawmakers and Lina Khan accuse them of having.

Also, the same issues like disinformation etc which FB suffered from is going to be a problem for any social media platform, even Tiktok. Tiktok has far less infra and resources invested into stopping it, so it will be interesting to see if the target shifts on to Tiktok now.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by Lamad123 »

frob wrote: post #257
dathinab wrote: post #232

I think they lost users much much earlier. It's just that most users they lost went from "I use Facebook" to "I don't want to use Facebook, but kinds still have to" (because friends, family etc.). All people below 40y I know which have Facebook fall more or less in the second category...

I fall into a 3rd category: I used to log into FB once a month or so to check in. For some reason, they decided I was a fake account (despite working for them for 4.5 years) and asked for my ID. The resolution on my 10-year-old MBP was too low for FB's contractors so they rejected my ID 3 times and I seem to now be locked out of my account indefinitely. Definitely in the top 10 best thing to ever happen to me.

I was locked out of amazon almost a year ago because of some security issue blah blah!!! I never tried to unlock the account and I am OK living in a world where I don't need to deal with that monster!

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Post by lostlogin »

sujesh wrote: post #327

I deleted my FB a while ago and it truely helped my online mental health. The fb feed was full of false news and hate speech. I reported as much as I could but nothing happening. There wasn't any regulations and I felt more toxic on the contents. I am not gonna lie there was a positive side like knowing the news instantly but It's not worth it apparently.

Reddit can be like this. But delete your account, Make a new one then add r/homelab r/homeassistant and r/chainsaw and it becomes a very positive place. Your desired subs may be different.

Some of the subs are just so helpful and so good.

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Post by guapano »

tomrod wrote: post #403
dzink wrote: post #357

The big reason behind losses was likely the iOS 14 tracking update. Right after it a ton of Facebook Advertisers groups on Facebook started complaining all of their carefully crafted campaigns were not producing revenue anymore. Targeting and regathering stopped making sales for advertisers and they quickly stopped spending on FB. The people who still spend are now doing videos as ads. Small advertisers were the cana…

Android has more market share.[0] Is there something intrinsic to FB ads that are significantly more successful for iOS users rather than Android users? Does FB cater their apps to iOS somehow more successfully, e.g Android users are more savvy and less likely to take to digital nudges? If that's not the case, then the 25% of market loss doesn't make sense to me -- are FB ads bulk purchases somehow, or are they by us…

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by oriettaxx »

we all know how hard is to get out, to remove a FB account, so to be (with their figures) considered a lost user: the financial consequences of this news is another reason why it's so hard :)

Now the wall has fallen.

You can hide many things, but sooner or later the figures have to come out: as a paradox, their "statistics" department can probably start to relax a bit now.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by dredmorbius »

dathinab wrote: post #232

I think they lost users much much earlier. It's just that most users they lost went from "I use Facebook" to "I don't want to use Facebook, but kinds still have to" (because friends, family etc.). All people below 40y I know which have Facebook fall more or less in the second category...

North American users (US & Canada) were reported to show declines at least as early as 2019, see:

https://hypebeast.com/2019/3/facebook-user-base-decline

WaPo links to US declines as early as 2018:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/10/30/faceboo...

The big news here is a worldwide decline, which shows a rather larger weakness.

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