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Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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Kindah like Palantir

Ehh...I get why tech people are suspect of Palantir but they're just disrupting other government contractors. And from my limited experience working with the government, they absolutely need / want / rely on having companies hold their hand as they insist on doing things the hard, slow, and very custom way.

It doesn't take much to disrupt a fax machine.

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I worked for a large e-commerce company. I wanted to investigate putting all our support data into Watson and see what sort of recommendations it could provide, maybe a sort of auto-suggestion to help our customers. Three really funny points stand out from the experience: 1) To apply for Watson access you needed to show C-level approval, so our CEO put his name and phone number on the application (trying Watson was s…

Wow, I can't believe how accurate this story is, same thing happened to me I think summer 2016 but I thought it was because our execs were idiots not that IBM would treat every company like that... CTO calling me to his office to talk to IBM on their personal phone, he was the only one who wanted Watson (this was a healthcare company, I was VP of Eng). And yes, they were obsessed with putting their logo everywhere, and as soon as we heard it was so expensive, we had to tell our CTO to chill, we stopped, cause you know you can hire at least 2 devs for that money.

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As someone doing a CS degree now, I seem to be the only one who doesn't want to have anything on my resume to do with "AI", blockchain, ML, NFT, chatbots, etc... all I see is overhyped product after product, one-size-fits all solutions that frustrate customers and create problems for humans to clean up, hugely valued companies that have very little real improvement over conventional technology, etc. An "AI chatbot" i…

A few reasons for this: + People care about what other people are talking about. They like to fit in, like they're part of the cutting-edge. + Less experienced people have less…experience with the downsides of what they're reading about. + CS is no longer mostly people who care about computer science, in the same way that economics isn't only for people who want the understand economics. Tech salaries — especially en…

> CS is no longer mostly people who care about computer science, in the same way that economics isn't only for people who want the understand economics.

That's the main reason I decided against a CS major even though I love the subject. It's just disheartening listening to discount business majors butcher even simple technical topics. The pure math track actually has more than a few people in the same situation, so I wound up meeting some enthusiasts anyway.

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Deep Blue preceded this. They had specialty equipment for crunching chess moves. Really excellent hype machine. I liked the documentary about it: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0379296/

I don't see the problem here, that was literally the point. To build a chess computer.

That was the last time IBM was cool.

That and it was cool when Watson won at Jeopardy.

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Kindah like Palantir

Ehh...I get why tech people are suspect of Palantir but they're just disrupting other government contractors. And from my limited experience working with the government, they absolutely need / want / rely on having companies hold their hand as they insist on doing things the hard, slow, and very custom way.

Disrupting? Their stock price has dropped by two thirds from its peak. They're probably looking to find a buyer at this point, such as IBM itself, while the leadership uses them as a stock-printing machine to enrich themselves.

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Can you expand?

They are just a contracting company making money off billing the government hourly for their employees time. It’s a horrible business.

Sounds like an awesome business if you're getting the money.

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As someone doing a CS degree now, I seem to be the only one who doesn't want to have anything on my resume to do with "AI", blockchain, ML, NFT, chatbots, etc... all I see is overhyped product after product, one-size-fits all solutions that frustrate customers and create problems for humans to clean up, hugely valued companies that have very little real improvement over conventional technology, etc. An "AI chatbot" i…

Sorry but you're wrong, all those buzzwords have their merit and there are real impressive and innovative companies or projects built on those hypes, not all is "worthless" or a "scam". Don't let your ignorance blur your mind, learn about them, use them, have your own ideas cause this post sounds like you've been reading way too much HN.

Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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> bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things My impression is that accompanying a patient is super important, it helps to understand illness, to have a plan in case of more complex treatments, etc. Then my doctor has the ability to know me and gauge my health. She's also very good at probabilities and detecting when something really goes wrong. I'm sure that being able to do that require a lot more than…

What many people don't realize is that medicine as a whole is already some sort of expert system (i.e.: a flavor of AI). There are researchers that conduct experiments to produce meaningful data and extract conclusions from that data. Then there are expert panels that produce guidelines from the results of that research. Most diagnostics and treatments are prescribed following decision diagrams that doctors themselve…

> We cannot apply modern inference techniques (e.g.: deep learning) to the global problem because we have strict rules that prevent medical data collection and analysis without a clear purpose.

I mean, China will likely do it, as long as they can capture high quality data, so there's that.

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