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I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Post by patrickk »

fartcannon wrote: post #276
nthot wrote: post #160

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I get that feeling as well, fartcannon. The meteoric rise over the past year of the subreddit just feels artficial. I don't have any evidence outside of the a rapid increase of subscribers. I'm sure there is a large number of people with that sentiment out there, so I'd maybe put it at 40% or less that this is being coordinated by an external actor. The whole sentiment around the subreddit really seems to be amplifyi…

Some of the manipulation seems obvious. Some of it less so. I always felt like some kind ublock origin style plugin that highlights or removes known instances of PR/manipulation/propanda would be helpful. Perhaps an AI trained on press releases from big corps and governments that performs authorship identification for a start. 'The writing style in this post are an 80% match for a press release by linked below'. Kind…

Not quite an AI but you can filter Reddit posts in RES by using keyword filters. Really great for clickbait topics.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Post by andrewflnr »

holoduke wrote: post #411
sokoloff wrote: post #376

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That is definitely (and self-evidently) true! Of all managers who rate everyone on their team as having achieved the highest performance standard, what fraction of those cases do you think are subjectively “correct”? In my experience, it’s way, way, way under half. Further, it’s rare for the managers giving the 100% top performance evaluation to individuals to be leading groups with high overall accomplishment/delive…

It's a bad metric anyway. A persons rating should not be depending on the work performance. It should be depending on the happiness factor of the person. The performance of that person is the responsibility of his/her manager. So whenever a person performance bad, the manager must either fix it or leave. This principle is having so much more success than your example.

This is going too far the other direction. Even if we assume no one is just slacking (which is a bad assumption), sometimes people are just not suited to the job they're in, and there's nothing a manager can reasonably do to change that, short of removing them.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Post by VBprogrammer »

radicalbyte wrote: post #265
twox2 wrote: post #222

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A lot of industries, despite being "tech", are still just using computers to "push paper". That means a true technical person can often automate these jobs. It's real and it does happen. The thing is... most people like that are not content doing that and then fucking around all day. I've been in this position. I've shared my automation with the team I was on and the manager I had, and I got a raise. I did this at mo…

Same here - my first real job involved putting reports together by collecting/combining data from various sources. Spent the first month doing it be hand, second month I pulled an all-nighter and automated the easy 80%. The last 20% of automation involved switching from Excel to a website - that took a couple of years to make happen because I needed to convince people to make the change. I spent the time I received i…

If you add socially normalised work from home to any of these stories the opportunity to do the very little becomes obvious. When we all had to come into the office for 8 hours a day, even if you managed to automate most of your work you still had to show up and sit at your desk.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Post by borvo »

matsemann wrote: post #461
coolso wrote: post #434

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But, maybe, also, that guy has a point that doesn’t involve citing a comic strip.

What point? They didn't make a point, just JAQing off.

Maybe you don't see the irony in anti-work kid using the youtube platform to spread cynicism about Corporate America while getting paid. His stuff is somewhat interesting, for about 10 seconds before you realize it contributes nothing to your life. Also, memes and urban dictionary slang? Are you serious? Don't be like this, indeed.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Post by CRConrad »

zero102 wrote: post #257
ravedave5 wrote: post #78

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"People need work to feel fulfilled." I never thought I'd see Stockholm syndrome in the wild.

They do. You do, I do, everyone does. You're maliciously interpreting OP to imply that "slaving over a hot keyboard" is the only way to feel fulfilled. Whether you are an employee, company owner, gardener, woodworker, whatever you are being fulfilled by "working". Applying yourself willfully and deliberately to a problem. If you are not being fulfilled you find something else. Or, like most people, you realize workin…

Once one understands your idiosyncratic definition of "work", you are of course right.

But your statement is still quite meaningless as part of a discussion, because that's not how everybody else uses the word, and a discussion where one participant uses his own terms, wildly divergent from everyone else's, can never get anywhere meaningful.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Post by CRConrad »

CountDrewku wrote: post #335
ravedave5 wrote: post #177

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Are you able to keep a shelter over your head and food in your belly without work?

Huh? Are you expecting others to take care of your needs while you do nothing? At what time in history has this ever been an option. You would be dead in a ditch with this attitude for most of our history. Maybe you need to go out into the woods and survive without help to force an attitude change. You have a skewed since of reality egged on by a society that's let you survive off of doing basically nothing and yet y…

Way to evade the question.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Post by CRConrad »

CountDrewku wrote: post #328
hwbehrens wrote: post #149

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> People need work to feel fulfilled. While you're likely to get skewered for this line, I think it's because of a mismatch in vocabulary that is being ignored. The "work" in antiwork is usually referring to paid employment, but it seems that you're using it more akin to fulfilling accomplishment. I agree with you on the whole that people need to feel that they are making a positive impact on their surroundings to fe…

>The "work" in antiwork is usually referring to paid employment, Except it's not, the posts also reflect this. "A subreddit for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles."

Exactly. A subreddit for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, and want to get the most out of a work-free life that they can in stead devote to the fulfilling accomplishment that you -- but no-one else -- call "work".

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Post by CRConrad »

neom wrote: post #37
wonderwonder wrote: post #29

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Are you really saying that the poster should tell them about his script, which they will then take and use, removing the need for OP? So OP who as far as anyone at the firm is concerned is doing a terrific job should sacrifice his position and take a financial hit so that the COO/GM can get a nice bonus? That makes no sense at all.

Actually he should have discussed it with others in the company as he went, given that chance has passed... Sans your hyperbole, that is indeed what I am saying. OP most certainly should discuss how he is executing his job with his employer, if they say it's fine, cool... but that should be their choice, business does not happen in a vacuum, it's a team of people working together. He's taking it upon himself to decid…

> that's unfair to the rest of the team.

What team? Where did you get a "team" from?!?

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Post by CRConrad »

neom wrote: post #67
wonderwonder wrote: post #61

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how is he taking it on himself to decide what work needs to be done? He was hired to perform a set of tasks, and has written a script to accomplish them. You could argue he has taken it upon himself to decide how the required work is done and then one could say "so what?". If the business is happy with his output then everyone is a winner. To think its an employees job to suicide their employment is not the actions a…

Employees are resources to the business, as the work changes, the resources change, it's not his job to decide how he should be resourced in the business. It's literally why HR is called HR.

If employees are just "resources", then they can obviously only have the same responsibility towards the employer to make themselves redundant as any other resource has.

So please drop this line for now, and get back to us the next time a brick, a hammer, or a forklift truck takes such an initiative.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Post by CRConrad »

neom wrote: post #164
wonderwonder wrote: post #150

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ok, lets go with that. What happens when the manager says "yes, implement the script and then we are going to fire you". What if Op refuses to implement the script then and just quits? A logical employee with rational self interest would never have that conversation because they know it likely ends with their termination. So in reality your proposal actually leads to the employee never implementing or recommending th…

Fire the employee and hire someone off fiver to look at the script and explain it, and then get an intern to run it once a week. If the script isn't written, I now know I can hire a consultant to write the script once. Sounds like a win for me. Except that's not how it would play out in one of my orgs, I'd chat with the employee and find a solution, if they're not excited about ANY other work in my business at all, I…

> Fire the employee and hire someone off fiver to look at the script and ...

1) Ah, so your step 1 was "fire the employee". (As predicted.) And you still don't get why no rational employee would start down that path?

2) Look at what script? Step zero, you will recall -- before writing the script -- was to open the discussion with the employer.

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