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Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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The video they put out is extremely cringe. The whole “metaverse” thing is cringe. It makes me believe Zuckerberg is completely surrounded by yes-men who never challenge him and only tell him what he likes to hear. He is truly detached from us normal people and our human experience.

Or that he just watched/read "Ready Player One" and was like "yes. that. now"

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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> If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. I'm confident I don't want them to own it - or for it to be owned by a single party of any kind, for that matter. > Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? I mean, that would be nice f…

At this point I'm confident I don't want there to be "a metaverse" at all, because under our current social and cultural systems, I am confident it will be very very bad no matter who owns it.

This is the sad reality. Our society is simply not structured to protect the end-users of any such service in any meaningful way. Our political and ethical leaders are simply too embedded with selfish interests. The Metaverse will be a fleece the customer engine, with the rate and manner it is developing.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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post #79

I don't understand what Facebook is even doing in terms of a metaverse. Like they have the VR goggles, but what are they actually doing with it? Coincidentally, MMO developer Raph Koster (Ultima Online, Star Wars Galaxies) has recently been detailing in a series of articles what his new company is doing in terms of building a metaverse, and it's pretty exciting in gaming terms. https://www.playableworlds.com/news/rif…

If you haven't had the chance, I'd suggest watching the FB Connect keyboard. It couldn't really be more explicitly spelled out in terms of the long term vision and the road to get there.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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post #417

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They have a legal obligation to maximize shareholder profits. See Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co .

Later caselaw (note that that case was from 1919) gives directors widespread latitude to decide what "benefiting the corporation" means. The second paragraph gives two such cases: AP Smith Manufacturing Co v. Barlow and Shlensky v. Wrigley.

This actually just makes it worse if (plausible) Zuck is a sadist.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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post #252

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I see this sentiment posted often on HN but I've seen no social media that didn't eventually become toxic or that didn't feed on human attention, this website included. What good is a platform if nobody pays attention to it? And if people are paying attention to it, how do you plan to prevent them from fighting, competing with each other over every little thing, and spreading misinformation?

I’ve seen it said (somewhere, sorry) that humans simply aren’t designed to interact on these mass social scales. And (without evidence, I admit) that feels kind of right to me. The ideal social network is a small one. But the incentives of advertising and/or just growth in general mean that it would difficult to compete in the market against the likes of Facebook.

Google tells me researches at York University research indicates that humans can remember "10,000 faces over the course of a lifetime. The average person can recall around 5000" - and that's on lifetime scale - so it's not surprising that systems that are pushing past that would be uncomfortable/anxiety inducing. Brains are not wired to deal with huge numbers of humans (although I'm sure evolution will eventually have a thing or two to say about that).

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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>I don't think Facebook is constitutionally able to give up ad revenue gains This "fiduciary duty" meme really needs to die. Seriously the idea of fiduciary duty [to maximixe profit] is dystopian, corporations don't fuck us over because they have to they do it because they can. Edit: clarify

They have a legal obligation to maximize shareholder profits. See Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co .

No they don’t, except maybe in Michigan (Dodge v. Ford is a Michigan Supreme Court ruling from 1919, applying Michigan state law; as your own article states: “In the 1950s and 1960s, states rejected Dodge repeatedly”, so assuming that Dodge v. Ford represents anything other than a quirk of Michigan law [and potentially an outdated one even there] is...unfounded on the evidence you have provided.)

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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post #267

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This is what I don't understand about their plan. Who on earth is planning to adopt this? We've seen a push from all sides of the tech industry to open up the AR/VR space, and it never took off. Remember the Snapchat Spectacles? They still sell them but I don't think they were ever popular. Google glass? Popular, but discontinued. Apple's ARKit? Definitely much less adoption than their commercials would have led you…

I can't speak for VR, but AR definitively has a future. You already see practical use of this technology with HUD-tech (Heads up display) in cars, but beyond that you'll find great applications for it within medicine/operations, transportation (directions), marketing (product information, authenticity verification), and the list goes on and on...

Yes, AR has some potential as an industrial or otherwise specialized technology. It won't be revolutionary or change the world in any way, but it will probably improve several kinds of processes, a background tech.

VR is much more likely to either become the new TV or to die an obscure death, like 3D movies.

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