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Post by frosted-flakes »

krzyk wrote: post #434
ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

Bummer, I hooe usbc can still be used for charging. Abd that will be the default charger. I love the fact that I can charge my phone laptoo (lenovo) and my wifes macbook air all with the same charger. Bummer 2, because now producers of tvs/monitors will have less drive to reolace old hdmi with usbc. sd cards? Are they that popular nowadays?

SD cards are still widely used in professional cameras, and they're not going away anytime soon.

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Post by buu700 »

nuerow wrote: post #469
buu700 wrote: post #202

I can live without HDMI, but it never made sense to me to put SD on the chopping block. In what sense was USB-C ever supposed to be an alternative to SD card slots? Edit: For clarity, read my reply to anamexis before responding to this.

> I can live without HDMI, but it never made sense to me to put SD on the chopping block. HDMI means external monitor. For some (most?) an external monitor is a must-have.

USB-C supports video out.

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Post by skohan »

petercooper wrote: post #473

I don't plan to go back to MagSafe. I have multiport USB-C chargers all round my house and don't really want to buy lots of cables or proprietary chargers to add to the mix. I'm sticking with USB-C even if it's slower. SD cards I don't use. And HDMI I rarely use so dongles are fine, but it's nice to have I guess!

Agree on the chargers. SD card is great if you do anything wit Raspberry Pi's and photos.

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Post by mandmandam »

dirkg wrote: post #475

why are the new models fatter, wider and heavier than the old ones? https://support.apple.com/kb/SP809?locale=en_US https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/specs/ shouldn't it be the other way around with the integrated chips, thinner screen etc etc?

People, including me, were pleading with them to stop trying to make things so thin over giving better batter life, thermals, cost effectiveness etc for the past 7 years or so.

I am delighted with this change. If you want light and thin get an Air; I want thermals, power, and bang for my buck.

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Post by ksec »

mizzack wrote: post #92

Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.

>increased key travel

I hope that is true. But they only state and quote

>For the first time, Magic Keyboard brings a full‑height function key row to MacBook Pro — with the tactile feel of mechanical keys that pros love.

Nothing really concrete about Key travel.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by nickysielicki »

have_faith wrote: post #28

Can't believe they did so many positive changes with the MBP only to add the notch from the phone in too. Almost the perfect update. Does this mean every app in full screen has to be updated to account for it? > posted in wrong thread so copying here

That portion of my screen on my Mac has been a solid grey square with no meaningful information for 99.9% of the time that the laptop has been powered on. The aspect ratio is 16:10 so it’s not going to get in the way of any 16:9 content. I feel like this is a pretty bad take. Would you prefer a solid black bezel?

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Post by nanook »

ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

I think these still stick to 16:10.

If you take 74px off the height for the notch/menubar area, you get 3024 x 1890 and 3456 x 2160 which are both 16:10.

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Post by nbzso »

josephg wrote: post #430
nbzso wrote: post #399

Nice. Ports are back. Very nice. Prices are up. Not nice. The deal breaker is the notch. Sorry Apple I am a designer. I cannot watch this 24/7. Even if the top bar is black the notch will be visible enough to distract my visual line. The more I look at this, the more I like the Framework laptop. P.S. Happy down-voting, have a nice day and stay safe.

Can you help me understand that? I have an iPhone with a notch and I find it’s totally fine. Day to day I don’t notice it. It just kind of blends in to the design of the phone. And I assume the situation here will be the same. Most software doesn’t use the whole menu bar anyway. It wont be on top of anything except if you use that space to watch full screen video. I’m not excited about the price, but I’d totally take…

I up-voted your comment, you ask reasonable question and I will try to answer it honestly.

It is a use case.

There are different levels of design craft. The more you, as a designer, train your mind and eyes, the more you see invisible things for regular people.

I can spend days in clearing the white space between glyph/kerning of typography and this notch will distract my eyes constantly. Call it OCD or professional deformation, the notch will drive me crazy.:)

When designing you want every visual distraction to be absent from your screen, for example I use 50% gray for wallpaper to have middle gray reference etc.

You cannot compare iPhone UX with Design process UX. When you use your phone, you have a legitimate reason for compromise. When you use Pro labeled hardware you expect all Pro use cases and Pro UX to be respected.

Don't get me wrong, I like the overall design (even the redesign of the shape of the keys), and there is no doubt that this are top-notch monsters. But for my use-case this is no go.

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Post by satoshiiii »

And here I am with my Lenovo S10-3 still doing fine in 2021. My use case is if I can produce something fast with this machine then half of the battle has already been won because by default I need to optimize for the lowest possible spec of my target market.

Obviously, I know this won't apply to everyone but anyway I hope this will continue for me a couple more years.

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