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TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by didibus »

vernie wrote: post #148
cronix wrote: post #73

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Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

It would appear that they've changed their strategy with these types of users to one of aggressive reply moderation as I'm regularly seeing content from all of the mentioned "high-risk" categories getting millions of likes and the comment sections are generally positive.

I guess it's hard to know since TikTok has around 1 billion active users. They could be dramatically reducing the set of people who gets suggested such content, and yet that content could still be suggested to millions of people.

Personally, I wouldn't find it strange that the recommender systems are tweaked to different countries and sensibilities as default at first, until it learns more from your own viewing patterns and refines itself.

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Post by rualca »

romwell wrote: post #412
teawrecks wrote: post #320

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The social media functionality is the secondary purpose of the app, the first being surveillance and data collection. Of course Google, Facebook, and a million other companies do the same thing, all completely disregarding user privacy in favor of selling your information for a quick buck, thereby making the internet a more hostile environment for taking advantage of the technologically uninitiated than ever before.…

>The social media functionality is the secondary purpose of the app That's like saying that providing people with groceries is the secondary purpose of grocery stores, the first being collecting money in exchange for them. Duh! How horrible! Everyone would be better off if they just grew their own food on their own farm, like in the good old days Saying TikTok is the "worst" thing is absurd given the article we're di…

> That's like saying that providing people with groceries is the secondary purpose of grocery stores, the first being collecting money in exchange for them.

No, not really. Like Facebook or Google, TikTok's revenue comes from selling ads. The advertisement business quite literally is based on how much personal info they can gather on yourself, and how they can leverage it to allow themselves and third parties to exploit that info to make you more vulnerable to their goals.

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Post by didibus »

cronix wrote: post #171
warning26 wrote: post #118

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On an abstract level, that sounds terrible, doesn't it? At the same time though, I feel like this seems like the "least bad" possible solution. If a subset of accounts are only going viral because people want to bully them, it seems reasonable to limit that content's reach.

Yes, it does sound terrible, on any level. Just get rid of minority viewpoints rather than enforce some sort of basic civility when discussing them? Just get rid of the harassed rather than the harassers? How will that iterate over time? That would be like firing the current women coming forward against Governor Cuomo and leaving the governor alone to continue his ways, to put it in a current headline context.

I'm not sure I'd frame it like that, I think it makes sense to consider people's sensibilities when recommending them content, so a good recommender system wouldn't recommend you things that anger you or repulse you and might make you become aggressive or hateful at the content or content creator.

That would make things non-confrontational, but that's kind of what people like about TikTok, most other social media have become super confrontational, you can't avoid seeing things you disagree with and it seems everyone is just fighting all the time, reacting to all the things they disagree with.

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Post by theshrike79 »

tomcooks wrote: post #216
mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

What's fun about stolen videos with a selfie introduction, happy dances and lipsync? Does tiktok offer anything else? Sincerely, the no fun guy

Yes. Sincerely, one of the old farts who had the same opinion, but kinda likes TikTok now.

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Post by theshrike79 »

mrtksn wrote: post #273
reggieband wrote: post #66

I like to think of TikTok as the crack cocaine of addictive social media. I used to think my dopamine receptors were burned out by the constant barrage of memes I received from reddit, Facebook and Twitter but TikTok proves they can refine that product to make it even more potent. When I visit reddit now it feels behind in the same way Facebook used to feel behind. Facebook's video feature (which they shove into my f…

I first discovered the app when it was Musically but I was scared away by peer pressure, even then had a bad reputation. Then I noticed that the icon changed(or read an article about it becoming something else, not sure), gave it another shot secretly. I still don't have friends who use TikTok, at least that's what they say but they laugh to videos stolen from TikTok all day. They are late of course. According to iPh…

> TikTok is great before sleep, I don't get the urge to check it all the time, I don't feel FOMO.

...this is actually true. TikTok has so damn much to see that your brain knows that it's physically impossible to see it all so the FOMO goes away.

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Post by fortuna86 »

rchaud wrote: post #191
tablespoon wrote: post #90

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> As opposed to US based networks? There are important differences between being influenced by domestic actors, as part of a domestic political process, and being influenced by foreign actors. The latter is a far more serious threat to political independence. It's also pretty well documented that the PRC political authorities already use its domestic social networks in this way.

It's also documented that Cambridge Analytica used data made available to it by Facebook to target millions with political propaganda. It wasn't just the US election, they had plenty of practice validating the strategy in elections in smaller countries. Where's the evidence that TT has been successfully used for nefarious purposes on a similar scale?

Cambridge Analytica is not a government, they don't operate prison camps for millions of people (many of whom were targeted by online surveillance).

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by [deleted] »

DLay wrote: post #390
spiderice wrote: post #298

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> There are plenty of sites that focus on long form videos Youtube. It's pretty much just Youtube. They are the only player with meaningful market share. Even Facebook video is most effective at only 20-40 seconds. I would welcome any competition to Youtube, even if it means TikTok expanding.

I’m shocked to see YouTube not even make AppAnnie’s top ten list at all. More people downloaded Twitter and Telegram over YouTube last year? Really?

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