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Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Sadly, I'll still be supporting IE11 on Windows 10 for the next decade. The bane of a massive company with old people that panic at opening chrome.

Should edge be replacing that?

I will be supporting it for as long as IE11 is installed on all computers.

For reference, we extended Windows 7 support until just this year lol

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

CPU requirements are also significantly stiffened up. Intel Core i8 or newer or AMD Ryzen 2 or newer. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min...

Incredibly misleading statement.

You just linked to a list of processors for starting development of a new embedded Windows device.

99.9999% of people will never have to concern themselves with this. Microsoft would never limit support to CPUs released a few years ago.

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They are iterating; the Settings panel gets more settings on every release. The first version on Windows 10 was incredibly sparse. It's also fair to say that there is a novice/expert divide -- Microsoft wants the settings panel to be as simple as settings on a mobile phone. That's great. However, occasionally I need to revert and diagnose the Wifi driver on my cheap Chinese mini laptop and I need a more powerful UI t…

The problem isn't that settings are missing, the problem is that there are related settings in multiple, entirely disconnected locations that interact in subtle ways. I have 4 UIs on my windows machine where I can set things related to inactivity/power down states. That's unreasonable, and nobody was confused in windows XP when those were all in one place (with an "advanced Settings" fold).

But you really only need the settings app. If you are a power user and want to mess with the individual details you hit "Additional power settings" and get the old UI. But so what?

My point was Microsoft is doing exactly the right thing here -- iterating on an existing design and keeping old software around for those who need it. Everybody seems to want Microsoft to throw out everything and instantly redesign several decades worth of software and that is ridiculous. That's not the way anyone should develop software.

> nobody was confused in windows XP

I'm sure they were -- the new settings app is significantly less complicated.

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post #474

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If you do accidentally connect to a network, before you realise this, there's no way to get it to forget. Rebooting doesn't work. The only solution I found was walking 30m away to the other side of the parking lot out of range of WiFi.

Disable WiFi in the BIOS.

Insane that you have to resort to that.

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Every time this happens someone says fuck it and installs Linux. After two weeks some of them come back, but the Linux market share grows. I want an OS that stays current on security patches, attempts to be as unobtrusive as possible, allows for Desktop Environment customization but has sane defaults. I don't want special integrations. The OS should follow single responsibility and defer special functionality to app…

Wait until you see what happens with Ubuntu updates.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

- Windows have rounded corners - Teams integrated into Windows - A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account) - A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup No thank you

You forgot: moved the most clicked button away from the easiest place to click it.

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But if you want get android app from playstore, you still need google account. Same for iOS, and it's even worst than android, since you can't sideload apps

Yes, ONLY if you want to download them from the playstore. As you already noted, on Android you can sideload apps and get them from other places other than the playstore. So you can still get the same app from another source without an account. Some companies like DJI actually let you download from their site directly and bypass the playstore. Notice the apple version links to the apple store but the Android version…

Bypassing the Play Store is also a bad sign, especially from chineese company. This is bypassing the Play Store rules about permissions granted to the app.

From experience, companies that provide apps directly have some malware to hide.

Here is an example: GAN Cube is the world leader in Rubik's Cube. They provide an Android app by direct download [1]. Strangely this app has the permission to install other apps. That's obviously something not allowed to publish on the Play Store.

[1] https://cubestation.com/

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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I did this when Vista came out. I said fuck it and installed Ubuntu, I had enough of Microsoft bullshit. Then Ubuntu upgraded and moved all window icons to the left side and rearranged them awkwardly. On the next update, they upgraded the sound subsystem and I was without sound until I bought my next PC. Another update came and computer went to sleep when watching movies, so I had to move the mouse every minute to fi…

The upside to Linux is when one of these kinds of changes happen you have the freedom to modify or swap out components to your liking. The downside to Linux is nobody actually wants to constantly modify or maintain components to their liking and nobody can agree what a good liking is so nobody likes the way somebody else does it.

Yeah and you can only do that if you have student-level free time. I used Linux as a student. I could keep it mostly working. Now I have a job and children and I like my laptop to last longer than 2 hours and connect to WiFi reliably.
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