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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by ilovepitchdecks »

kaba0 wrote: post #473
ilovepitchdecks wrote: post #468

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How much money somebody has access to is directly correlated with how much time (of which everybody gets the same 24 hours a day) they spend on trying to earn money. People who care less about money will earn less and that is their own fault. The same is true in politics. Those who shout the loudest, win. A big wallet helps too. Ever heard of lobbying?

Wow.. so how many hours Jeff Bezos’s day contains? I’m fairly sure a low level worker at amazon spends much more time on work than any of the billionaires.

A low-level worker made that career choice themselves. They were well aware they wouldn't become rich by working in a warehouse, no matter how many hours they worked. They still have their life in their own hands: They can look for another job.

Jeff Bezos sure worked like crazy to get Amazon to where it is now, so he has every right to take it easy now that he's 'made it'.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by kaba0 »

ilovepitchdecks wrote: post #479
kaba0 wrote: post #471

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I’m fairly sure I have no say in google’s politics, but I do have a (limited) say in my country’s. Also, the two don’t even play in the same field. The government is more like the referee in a sport.

Oh, but you do have a say: You can work for Google! It's the same as moving to a different country and becoming a citizen to be eligible to vote. Referees, in comparison to governments, can be fired for doing a poor job.

> You can work for Google

Yeah and I will simultaneously work for google to not fk up the open web, for facebook to not disrupt democracy, and nestle to not goddamn force breastfeeding mothers on their shitty product.

How do you imagine a world without governments? The first thing they will do is put cocaine in their special food so you get addicted, add cheaper and more unhealthy components, even toxic ones, etc. Companies after a quite small size becomes the stereotypical paper clip AI, but instead of paperclips, it optimizes profit over everything else. A well functioning government with separation of power and without much corruption is good - it protects us from the cancerous outgrowth of companies.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by kaba0 »

ilovepitchdecks wrote: post #481
kaba0 wrote: post #473

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Wow.. so how many hours Jeff Bezos’s day contains? I’m fairly sure a low level worker at amazon spends much more time on work than any of the billionaires.

A low-level worker made that career choice themselves. They were well aware they wouldn't become rich by working in a warehouse, no matter how many hours they worked. They still have their life in their own hands: They can look for another job. Jeff Bezos sure worked like crazy to get Amazon to where it is now, so he has every right to take it easy now that he's 'made it'.

Thank you, I prefer not being brainwashed into actually believing that billionaires’ success has anything to do with hard work over plain old dumb luck and not being absolutely trash at what they do (and a “small” few million dollar from daddy here and there).

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

Hallucinaut wrote: post #437
teddyh wrote: post #431

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Can you name a few consumer-level boycotts in, say, the last 50 years, which actually accomplished their goals?

They didn't suggest a boycott. Each individual consumer decision makes a difference in aggregate. Every failed business in history is a result of consumer decisions away from what they have to offer, so I don't particularly understand that rationale.

Unfortunately we live in a world were society does need to legislate morality. Slavery or child labour weren't ended by consumers voting with their wallet.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by teddyh »

ilovepitchdecks wrote: post #470
kaba0 wrote: post #445

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People are “easy” to manipulate, especially when your control reaches basically every aspect of their life. Hiding/downplaying few articles here, shoving another into my face there with an opaque algorithm will achieve basically anything over a long time. Also, you underestimate the effect of laziness. A company really has to do some atrocious thing to result in people leaving its services. Like, what would make the…

I'm going to rephrase my original comment, which got flagged: There's inherent hypocrisy in having the biggest monopoly of them all regulate smaller monopolies. Because they're 'monopolies'. Right.

As if “hypocricy” was the worst possible offense. If you remove government, who will then stop other monopolies from forming in their place? Government is what all governed people, in aggregate, decide should be common principles. If they are not to your liking, then you can either leave or advocate for (often slow and gradual) change. It is often said that people get the governent they deserve; i.e. the problem (if there is one) is with people, not government. I would argue that you can’t really abolish government, any more that you can have a structureless organization:

https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by MereInterest »

ilovepitchdecks wrote: post #468
MereInterest wrote: post #466

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Products are chosen by a weighted sample of the people, according to how much money somebody has access to. "Vote with your wallet" means that different people have different sized votes. "Vote with your wallet" is an inherently anti-democratic phrase.

How much money somebody has access to is directly correlated with how much time (of which everybody gets the same 24 hours a day) they spend on trying to earn money. People who care less about money will earn less and that is their own fault. The same is true in politics. Those who shout the loudest, win. A big wallet helps too. Ever heard of lobbying?

Factually incorrect. Some people have different hourly incomes, by several orders of magnitude. Some people have passive income, which no longer requires any time input. Some people have inherited wealth, which is entirely uncorrelated with their own efforts.

While I can see some benefits to having a proportional vote that can be allocated to different issues, money isn't such a vote because it isn't equally distributed. Between this and your reply to kaba0, I have a very hard time believing that you are arguing this in good faith.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by ilovepitchdecks »

teddyh wrote: post #485
ilovepitchdecks wrote: post #470

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I'm going to rephrase my original comment, which got flagged: There's inherent hypocrisy in having the biggest monopoly of them all regulate smaller monopolies. Because they're 'monopolies'. Right.

As if “hypocricy” was the worst possible offense. If you remove government, who will then stop other monopolies from forming in their place? Government is what all governed people, in aggregate, decide should be common principles. If they are not to your liking, then you can either leave or advocate for (often slow and gradual) change. It is often said that people get the governent they deserve; i.e. the problem (if…

Yes, but I wasn't advocating for the abolishment of anything; I was merely pointing out that there's a double standard. To rephrase your words, don't the people get the 'monopolies they deserve'? After all, neither the CEOs nor the employees of these entities are aliens from space.

You can't just leave a government the same way you can leave a job (and become unemployed) or a product (become a non-customer); you can only switch to another one. Why don't you try parking a vessel in the international waters and see how long it takes before it's sunk.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by DamnInteresting »

lillecarl wrote: post #325
DamnInteresting wrote: post #230

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I created an extension that flushes all cookies and local storage for the current domain; it then reloads the page so you appear to be a fresh new visitor.

Name?

It's called "Howdy Stranger", it's listed in both Firefox and Chrome official add-on stores.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by ilovepitchdecks »

MereInterest wrote: post #486
ilovepitchdecks wrote: post #468

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much money somebody has access to is directly correlated with how much time (of which everybody gets the same 24 hours a day) they spend on trying to earn money. People who care less about money will earn less and that is their own fault. The same is true in politics. Those who shout the loudest, win. A big wallet helps too. Ever heard of lobbying?

Factually incorrect. Some people have different hourly incomes, by several orders of magnitude. Some people have passive income, which no longer requires any time input. Some people have inherited wealth, which is entirely uncorrelated with their own efforts. While I can see some benefits to having a proportional vote that can be allocated to different issues, money isn't such a vote because it isn't equally distribu…

There's no such thing as passive income; there's only delayed income. You're not getting paid for nothing; you're getting paid for putting in the work ahead of time. What's wrong with that?

I never claimed everyone has the same hourly income. Nor should they. Some people work hard (on their career - not necessarily at their current job!), others take it easy. Both are valid options, but there will be consequences for the respective groups (both good and bad).

If you're against inherited wealth, I expect you to leave none to your own children. Respect if you actually go through with this.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by ehsankia »

unicornfinder wrote: post #439
ehsankia wrote: post #341

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The irony is that this is the model the new Chrome API was going towards, and Apple has been using it forever, but when Google goes to do it, everyone has tinfoil theories about how Google is specifically doing it to kill ad-block extensions, but when Apple does it, very few people complained. Realistically, it's probably more security and battery efficient. I doubt they'll undo it.

To be fair the ad-blockers available for Safari are severely limited compared to what can be done in Chrome. Things like YouTube ads for example aren't blocked reliably in Safari in my experience.

That was my point exactly, and no one ever claims Safari's model is done for bad reasons, but if Google were to do something similar to Safari, they would get a ton of hate.
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