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Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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The big Internet challenge for the next 3-4 years is to completely decentralize the big social networks. It is not a matter of technology though. You need people rioting, the governments having the balls to do it or a combination of both.

It is a matter of technology. Groups that get banned on regular social media will move to these new next gen social networks, and (almost) everyone else will stay on the old ones. Giant echo chambers will form. But only the new ones will be uncensorable and free.

> It is a matter of technology. Groups that get banned on regular social media will move to these new next gen social networks, and (almost) everyone else will stay on the old ones.

I dont understand what you think technology is.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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>The only thing the executives at reddit care about is revenue and hence impressions Oh please. If that was true, they wouldn't have banned TheDonald, especially so close to the election. That sub drove a huge amount of traffic.

The Donald subreddit was big, but the writing was on the wall that Trump was about to lose, and /r/politics + /r/SandersforPresident + /r/AOC have always been bigger and more popular. It was a very easy decision for reddit.

The user count on r/thedonald was frozen as to not influence popularity, you are likely wrong about their relative size.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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"Let's protest because we can't sink our money into GameStop stock after seeing a stock promoter online hype up the stock!" Do we forget that GameStop is a mall retailer that sells physical copies of video games? This is not the next Amazon or Saudi Aramco. Anyone who is convinced to put their money in GameStop was likely tricked by someone with a financial interest (and that was probably a rich person). This entire…

You misunderstand the context here. Yes, there's the narrative and the certainty that wealthy people participated in the snowballing/astroturfing and profited from it. But it's still the case that small investors made some money playing by the same rules as the hedge funds, and the institutions have nakedly tried to stop that through any means possible, from curtailing the actual discussion to media campaigns to dire…

Pointing out that people are making money as the stock is currently going up completely ignores what is likely to happen next: the stock will go down. In the end this won't be a story of Robinhood traders making money but rather about how Robinhood traders lost a bunch of money because of internet hype.

The narrative about a cabal of rich people "nakedly trying to stop" Robinhood traders from trading is also manipulative garbage. Every reasonable and level-headed explanation of why Robinhood halted trading was about credit limitations, that is in agreement with what Robinhood stated publicly, and now that the credit has been remedied Robinhood trading has resumed. No conspiracy theory necessary. The hype is wrong and, worse, intentionally misleading.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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You're asking me to take a position on your completely hypothetical and theoretical social network. This is no more useful than asking me whether I'm in favour of the universe being a simulation. I'm in favour of you building it. Then let's see what happens. Does that answer your question? > I just don't see how whatever advantages you claim facebook has given to 'assholes', it hasn't given to e.g. BLM twice over- wi…

I get wanting to crush untouchables; I just think it's a hysterical stance to take vis-a-vis something like FB. You're not having the King "do something about taxes"; you're having him go on witch hunts. I'm suspicious about how much witch-hunters actually want the king gone, or whether they wouldn't want to replace him with a cheka later. They have a vested interest in power staying centralized. This all makes it a…

> I can only assume your stances would cast you in an unfavourable light

I've been on HN for six years, if you truly want to know them, you can look at any of my older posts.

Since you can "only assume", maybe seeing that you're wrong will finally get you to stop "assuming"?

& personal attacks are not tolerated here, FYI. Going to stop replying now.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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Serious question: Since Facebook is a private company, does the "if you don't like it, you can build your own platform" argument apply here? Or does that only apply selectively when it benefits partisan politics? The RobinHood $GME situation is the natural next step in societal evolution once extreme censorship is given a pass. If you support the "go build it yourself" argument, you no longer have the right to compla…

Why would you even bring in partisan politics? Sounds like lack of principles, and total ignorance how moderation, admin rights, privatization and rights of association works.

Ah the classic "How dare you" response when being called out for hypocrisy.

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Banks back the primary dealers who take and back these leveraged trades. They are up to their noses in this.

what? banks just lend money and are scared of defaults. what do banks have to do with this? the power company is complicit by providing electricity too? if you against banking, you have bigger fish to fry

Brokerage firms are backed by banks, and if a brokerage firm was somehow small enough that they couldn't provide the liquidity to cover the trades, then the banks backing them are on the hook.

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Serious question: Since Facebook is a private company, does the "if you don't like it, you can build your own platform" argument apply here? Or does that only apply selectively when it benefits partisan politics? The RobinHood $GME situation is the natural next step in societal evolution once extreme censorship is given a pass. If you support the "go build it yourself" argument, you no longer have the right to compla…

You’ve posted this comment multiple times — copy pasted even. Got an axe to grind?

I do have an axe to grind considering many of these people had the opposite reaction when it favored their leftist politics.

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Of course it applies here. The problem with Facebook doing this is that it diminishes their brand, product and trust users have in the platform. Re: Robinhood, it is a completely different story. What Robinhood did in this case is market manipulation. They only allowed people to sell the stock and not to buy it. That is (I think) illegal.

If so, it requires someone to take action against them. Since the CEO of the Nasdaq suggested a trading halt to let hedge funds "recalibrate"[0] it's going to take State AGs or similar to take action. 0 - https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstocks/nasdaq-ceo-suggest...

The CEO of Nasdaq is owned by those hedge funds. Just like Janet Yellen is owned by them[1]. Halting trading would cause the price to plummet, and the Hedge funds would save billions. THIS is why they're calling for a trading halt.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/28/janet-yellen-gamestop-cit...

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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Why would you even bring in partisan politics? Sounds like lack of principles, and total ignorance how moderation, admin rights, privatization and rights of association works.

Ah the classic "How dare you" response when being called out for hypocrisy.

Where is the hypocricy though? The same principles apply to private property in this case too. No special laws required for special people. I grant it's formed as a bit of hyperbole.

It should give people pause what full privatization and deregulation may mean.

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You’ve posted this comment multiple times — copy pasted even. Got an axe to grind?

I do have an axe to grind considering many of these people had the opposite reaction when it favored their leftist politics.

Do you have specific individuals in mind? Because HN is a collective of a lot of people. I, for one, as posted had the same reaction both times.

Not every opinion is informed only by partisan position. I just believe in private ownership and personal rights. I believe in free speech but not in compelled speech.

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