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Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Post by NeutronStar »

tptacek wrote: post #425
forgingahead wrote: post #346

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I'm not sure if you're asking in good-faith, your comment history shows a history of "Sea-lioning" (a term I just learned myself today): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning From the original web-comic: http://wondermark.com/1k62/

The moderators of this site specifically ask you not to employ this tactic of trying to summarize people's comment history as a rhetorical weapon. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25130908

That's usually what happens when someone considers reputation above some fact.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Post by LocalH »

Vinnl wrote: post #265
scoot wrote: post #246

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Linking to someone's public posts isn't "doxing". Publicly sharing their personal details (private email address, home address, phone number, etc.) or other private information as a form if direct or indirect harassment is .

It could still result in a mob piling on them, which is exactly the behaviour they're arguing against...

I'm genuinely ok with a mob piling on someone who is making stalking threats.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Post by core-questions »

cpursley wrote: post #418
eplanit wrote: post #400

The Left is using psychological projection as a technique. They accuse their opponents of doing exactly what they themselves are doing. They'll call you a fascist while they burn books. They'll call you racist while accusing you of "white privilege". Like you say, they'll destroy people's lives, based on racial hatred, while accusing those people of racial hatred. Domestic terrorism.

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Communists and Fascists share a lot of the same authoritarian tactics.

The word we need to use is "Totalitarian Liberalism". We're not heading into communism (there's no unity, there's no focus on workers) nor fascism (there's no aesthetic, there's no glory of the nation). Instead, we get as much Product as we want, as long as we all toe the line and profess to believe as we're told - no matter how far that strays from observable reality.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Post by cozuya »

aleister_777 wrote: post #472
cozuya wrote: post #431

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What's the Occam's Razor of "everyone smart enough to be in advanced learning seems to have the same political bias", do you think?

They are all drinking from the same self-righteous well of "morality". The fact that they consider themselves "advanced" also seems to translate that they are also "correct" in all matters, regardless of their expertise.

I'm pretty sure the simplest explanation doesn't involve so many double quotes.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Post by Jochim »

thu2111 wrote: post #226
Barrin92 wrote: post #192

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It's not a novel take at all, people have been fired for random takes that blew into shitstorms countless of times. You seem to be confused about my post, I'm not passing any judgement here in the sense of approving with the firing, I'm saying, if you make a post on some political event and you create some sort of backlash, even if you didn't do anything wrong, but you're being perceived that way, your place of work…

The person in question wasn't fired for "random takes" but rather being seen in the vicinity of services that have been seen in the vicinity of people making decidedly non-random takes on political matters. And now she, perhaps correctly, believes she is the victim of religious and political persecution. As for not being mass hysteria, from the outside looking in it's clearly exactly that. Firing someone because of a…

> The US left appear to be descendeding into full bore anti-conservative hysteria. This is exceptionally dangerous because when the left has taken power in the past with that kind of mentality it ended up in bloodshed on massive scales. That must not happen to America.

I wouldn't single out any particular faction on this to be honest. The Obama birther movement purportedly started in 2004 and Trump himself peddled the narrative that Obama wasn't a US Citizen. There was also the general narrative that Obama was the "Anti-Christ" and a secret Muslim.

Now you have a portion of the GOP who believe Democrats and "Hollywood elite" are harvesting children's adrenochromes in a massive paedophile ring.

Any argument that hysteria is the domain of one party is not based in fact.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Post by mellosouls »

enkid wrote: post #456
forgingahead wrote: post #346

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I'm not sure if you're asking in good-faith, your comment history shows a history of "Sea-lioning" (a term I just learned myself today): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning From the original web-comic: http://wondermark.com/1k62/

This is really messed up. I have doubts about what other people say, but I try to reserve judgement about those things. When them make claims that I haven't seen any evidence for, I ask for their evidence so I can understand where they are coming from, but make my own assessment about the truth. I am not badgering anyone, but I refuse to let people make claims without evidence, if it is 1.) it's a statement of fact,…

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Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Post by istorical »

roenxi wrote: post #179
D13Fd wrote: post #15

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I honestly don't know why people use "post what you're thinking" style social media at all at this point. With employers being so sensitive, how can the cost/benefit analysis ever really result in a determination that it's a good idea to be active on Twitter/Facebook (or Gab, Parler, TheDonald.win, etc.)? Maybe that's part of what makes things get so extreme on those sites. The most reasonable people know enough not…

Technically; people can't post to thedonald.win either. It has been closed down too.

it moved to patriots.win and there's apparently an even crazier group at greatawakening.win

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Post by mellosouls »

cozuya wrote: post #431
mellosouls wrote: post #312

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The summary in Wikipedia may be correct but it is worth remembering that Wikipedia itself is hideously biased to the left at times in its coverage of political issues. I've generally taken that not to be down to malevolence but probably just down to the fact those drawn to editing it are most likely of a similar political hue to those from academia.

What's the Occam's Razor of "everyone smart enough to be in advanced learning seems to have the same political bias", do you think?

Anecdotal, but many of the stupidest, most blinkered people I've ever met are those with "advanced learning".

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Post by mindslight »

imveryconcerned wrote: post #157
dguaraglia wrote: post #135

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See, the best trick for pushing propaganda isn't fabricating stories, but choosing carefully what stories you publish and which ones you don't. The perfect example of that is Breitbart's infamous 'black crime' tag: Breitbart didn't need to invent stories, they'd just go and pick up out of the bunch of criminal prosecutions happening every single day in a country with >300 million inhabitants. But by choosing to focus…

It's true, although obviously it applies to the both sides. In fact, BLM protests were caused by exactly the same mechanism you're describing - liberal media was creating false narratives about police brutality towards black people. "Transgender murder epidemic" is an even better example, it was completely made up by the media. Look up the numbers and compare them with the general population.

The difference is that the criminal justice system is supposed to address every single case. Any individual case of a public prosecutor refusing to prosecute a murderer (because they're also employed as a cop) is an injustice at the scale of the entire jurisdiction. Statistics on the race of the victims aren't actually necessary to get outraged. So your argument, at best, applies to the political framing of the subject rather than the core issue.

Re: Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab

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Post by paperwasp42 »

hluska wrote: post #305
common_crow wrote: post #29

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I assume you're speaking of the Scott Bergstrom debacle? Yeah, I remember that one. Link to Scott's interview that infuriated those authors is here: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/child... Don't want to dox anyone and post which authors had such horrible behavior, but I will say I personally witnessed those tweets discussing book burning, stalking, and public harassment.

I’m not sure that I’d call the reaction to Bergstrom a debacle. Here are a couple of quotes from the excerpt that made everyone angry: “It’s a novel with a teenage heroine set in a dystopian future. Which novel in particular doesn’t matter because they’re all the same. Poor teenage heroine, having to go to war when all you really want is to write in your diary about how you’re in love with two different guys and can’…

I think it's worth clarifying two things:

1) This excerpt is written from the POV of a snarky, troubled 17-year-old girl. Very different from the author himself saying these things.

2) I can excuse 14-year-old fangirls losing their minds over the Hunger Games and lashing out at anyone who criticizes it.

I can not excuse 35-year-old adults encouraging their huge following to harass the author and cheering on the idea of burning his books.

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