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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by lghh »

whimsicalism wrote: post #435
liminal wrote: post #420

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

By that standard, Instagram is a propaganda weapon. It both: a. pays popular users b. Puts warnings on political issues, like statements that Biden's crime bill contributed to mass incarceration [0] [0] https://twitter.com/ben_awareness/status/1339293381625864195

That claim about the Crime Bill is mostly accurate. The vast, vast, vast, majority of incarceration is the fault of states and not done at a federal level. While the bill was deplorable, it didn't really contribute all that much.

https://twitter.com/johnfpfaff/status/1128369019164200960?la...

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by generalk »

neartheplain wrote: post #430
hannasanarion wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quick question, how many BLM mobs beat two cops to death with flagpoles? How many built gallows and rushed into government buildings with handcuffs looking for politicians to execute? How many battered down the door to the room where the Vice President and Speaker of the House were hiding chanting "Hang Pence, Hang Pelosi"? And how many of them were inspired by prominent politicians telling them "We are never going t…

I've recapped the depths of last summer's BLM/antifa violence in previous threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25667848 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25691407 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25671284 Objectively, the summer's riots (as opposed to the more numerous peaceful protests) caused more deaths, injuries, and property damage. At the same time, the assault on the capitol was an unprecedente…

  > I suggest we all stop comparing these things.
Agreed, they are comparable only in superficial ways which remove context vital to the understanding of both events.

One group of people were protesting/rioting because police continue to suffer little consequence for murdering Black folks, despite years of effort at reform.

The other group protested/rioted by breaking into the Capitol and threatening to murder politicians because the current POTUS has claimed, repeatedly and without any evidence, that the election he recently lost was somehow rigged against him. Again, for context, this has come from the side of American politics that has for the past four years claimed that "elections have consequences."

To compare these two events on a "look who did more violence" level is reductive at best and at worst a bad faith argument in support of the folks who stormed the capitol.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by judge2020 »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #470
judge2020 wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/parler-grab The details in the post are generally false - nowhere in this grabber (which is what was used to download the 70TB (or 56tb based on the tracker[0]) are admin credentials used to bypass access controls. There were no ACLs on the video and picture files, so anyone could wget them without issue. 0: https://tracker.archiveteam.org/parler/

Someone went to prison for wget'ing ATT data. And people right here argued that when you create a script to do so, you're no longer using their intended functionality in good faith.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24876481

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by nullc »

judge2020 wrote: post #379
nullc wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry, the "hacked material" rule on twitter will prevent anything derived from this being posted on twitter. Right???

Since it's WARC and is going to end up on archive.org (archive.org is going to host it, but a different org 'archive team' are the ones who downloaded it), twitter isn't going to stop it from being posted since it's just going to show up as a link to web.archive.org. Arguably this isn't 'hacked data' since it's stuff that was wget'd and no security measure circumvention took place.

> no security measure circumvention took place

You don't consider exploiting 2fa fail-open being triggered by deplatforming by their 2fa provider being used to mass password reset accounts and vacuum up their private messages not a security circumvention?

What about using a arbitrary content type upload on their video subdomain to implement an XSS attack to allow them to download all videos, including ones sent privately between users?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by mleonhard »

mr_overalls wrote: post #365
foob wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And now information about your account has been leaked, and will be lumped in with more nefarious accounts. I have a feeling that a significant number of people have similarly made accounts out of curiosity. I've had my parents and some less technically inclined friends recently ask me what Parler is because it's been in the news. These aren't people that fall under the alt-right categorization in the slightest, and…

I don't care if my personal information was leaked. I followed discussions, posted a comment or two like, "What evidence do you have for that?" There seemed to be tons of other accounts that did the same, along with accounts by obvious Lefts who were there to troll. I highly doubt there will be blowback for the kind of participation I did. I am absolutely a privacy advocate. However, in the case where the continued e…

I don't understand your claim that terrorists are a threat to our democracy. As long as most of the people in the country believe in democracy, the country will continue to have democracy.

The real threat to democracy is allowing leaders to stop following the democratic process. For example, on 02021-01-06, 147 congresspeople voted to throw out the votes from an entire state, even after their party had pursued the appropriate legal remedies [0]. Next time, they may succeed in throwing out votes. At that point, USA will be an oligarchy. This is the real threat to democracy.

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/07/us/elections/...

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by _alex_ »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #191

> With this type of access, newly minted users were able to get behind the login box API used for content delivery. That allowed them to see which users had moderator rights and this in turn allowed them to reset passwords of existing users with simple “forgot password” function. Since Twilio no longer authenticated emails, hackers were able to access admin accounts with ease. Can anyone make sense of this? In all th…

I'm making a wild-ass-guess here, but it sounds like when you clicked "forgot password" it would text you a code to punch in to verify your identity. It sounds like that part failed open. So once twillio went away, any code would succeed.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by Finnucane »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #452

This person committed a crime to leak this data. I don't know how any of you can be this blatantly two-faced or so unprincipled. You're cheering on a criminal committing a crime. You're cheering on the suppression of an entire political party, while calling them extremists, fascists, terrorists, and every other -ist that you feel vaguely fits the bill. Yes, a few of them marched on the capitol. Yes, that was awful. N…

It is certainly arguable that if this data contained evidence of serious crimes--such as plotting treason and murder of government officials--then under normal circumstances, it should be turned over to the appropriate agencies, such as the FBI, and not released publicly, so as to not doxx people who may not necessarily have committed any crime beyond the poor judgement of hanging with fascists.

Whether we can beleive that the FBI, etc, will deal with this appropriately is another matter.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by hartator »

marcinzm wrote: post #391
sanedigital wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The data is public now—if you're so certain, go find me a single post on Parler calling for mass executions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/us/arkansas-police-resign...

These are not credible death threats.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by reuben_scratton »

newacct583 wrote: post #88
thomastjeffery wrote: post #39

When you purposefully leak private data, you no longer get to hide behind the title "Security Researcher".

Parler was ground zero for the community that announced and executed the attack on the capitol. Thought leaders there were routinely evoking, imagining, and outright calling for violence, and the crowd was a feedback loop. Fundamentally the Parler community existed to provide a platform for people who had been already banned from Twitter. Frankly the peaceful use of the site was mostly incidental. I think there's a r…

Was it really? Where can I see proof of this?
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