Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
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did you see the photos of the rioters? Do you really believe they are that tech-savy?
The idea here is some foreign actor agent (that could be a U.S. citizen by the way) could have participated in storming/ breaking and entering the capitol. Looks can be deceiving.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-05-01-mn-1029-s...
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#483Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Five people died as a result of these actions. I can guarantee more died as a direct result of BLM "protests" in 2020. Nevermind billions of dollars of damage that fell on the shoulders of minority and lower class communities. I have a hard time imagining that someone concerned about insurrection would unabashedly gloss over CHAZ/CHOP as though it's not a cut-and-dry act of secession. I guess you support secession.
I don't support CHAZ and I never said I did. Claiming to secede for a couple of blocks in a neighborhood in Seattle, is incredibly stupid and dangerous. My point here is the scope of things, armed insurrectionists stormed the capitol building. Three pipe bombs were recovered and disarmed. What do you think would have happened if the person who laid the pipe bombs had gotten to Nancy Pelosi? Further the President of t…
My point is the scope of things too.
There was complete chaos across the country last year.
With many reminiscent if not worse scenes of complete disregard for public spaces and institutions.
The media was practically giddy about justifications of why we shouldn't be opposing the destruction of statues of the founding fathers. Freaking abolitionist statues were targeted.
There is unquestionably more total damage, building burned to the ground, etc from what happened last year.
I'm not saying what occurred at the Capitol is to be dismissed - quite the contrary. What I'm saying is that it's like one half of the country just woke up to the idea that mass political violence and bedlam should be denounced.
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#484Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Depending how sophisticated your adversary is The videos I saw don't inspire much dread, there, but they may give the laptop to someone that can do digital forensics. Lots of LEOs in that lot. They would be smart enough to stay out of the building, but might have been waiting for someone to come out with something like that. But, as someone pointed out, a lot of the folks wouldn't bother trying to read anything. Th…
Are you sure? Most of the rioters seem like herpa-derpers, but some came there on a mission, like this guy: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13690389/us-capitol-rioters-zi... (those are not regular zipties, but the "taking hostages" kind)
They have a photo of a guy on his hands and knees, cleaning the place. He's a congressman.[1]
[0] https://www.the-sun.com/news/2105149/trump-supporters-smeare...
[1] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/us/congressman-capitol-trash-...
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#485How was every person leaving the building not searched by police as a condition of exit? The kettling and taking of details of (even peaceful) protesters in the UK is pretty standard now (I don't like it, but it is what seems to happen) - so why did they just let these people leave unchecked?
> How was every person leaving the building not searched by police as a condition of exit? The same reason they weren't searched on the way in. It was a security failure.
Way beyond their organizational readiness at the time.
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#486Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#487Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was at least one person near her in the video of that women getting shot who was clearly armed with an assault rifle. She may have been unarmed but was storming the chamber with other armed people. The security on the other side had good reason to believe she was a dangerous threat.
There is no such thing as an 'assault rifle'. It is a made up term.
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#488How was every person leaving the building not searched by police as a condition of exit? The kettling and taking of details of (even peaceful) protesters in the UK is pretty standard now (I don't like it, but it is what seems to happen) - so why did they just let these people leave unchecked?
Clearly the police were outnumbered to a degree that they couldn't prevent them from getting inside in the first place, so why would they have sufficient forces to search these individuals on exit?
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
#489Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're not a protester if you are breaking into congress, breaking past a barricade, being told to stop, and walking towards an officer pointing his gun at you. You're suicidal.
But, they let these people in: https://twitter.com/i/status/1347615998610911234
Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide
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In the Netherlands there are a few entry ways and they look a bit like this: https://www.dormakaba.com/resource/blob/128222/7d74af646dce4... They're configured one-way only, can be fully opened for high through-put or emergencies, but are otherwise single-person only. They can detect multiple people in various ways. The default for sensitive areas would be biometric (e.g. weight, some parlement members coming back fr…
The US Capitol belongs to the people. There are risks from that which fall on the people who serve there. In counties with monarchs there are different traditions expressed by the architecture of public institutions and the seats of power.
Dutch representatives are accessible by the people. They have a walk-in hour, you can call them, email them, write them, you can join hearings and meetings where they're present, they go out into the country to talk to citizens. But what you can't do is waltz into their office. This has obvious reasons in a post 9/11 world, and it has nothing to do with the fact the Netherlands has a king who has a purely symbolic function and does not participate in politics, no different from say France which is a republic, or Germany which saw a mob storm the Reichstag a few months ago and was easily held off by the police, which is also a republic.