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I have 18 windows open in Firefox vs chromium that say otherwise. Why would I lie lol.
Chrome has a more responsive UI, but as for actually rendering and laying out pages, Firefox is usually much faster. I've actually checked with both browsers open side-by-side while developing my own webapps. What's worse, Chrome is super buggy and will often randomly crash on complex CSS or too many table rows, etc.
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As an example of semantic URLs, think of Wikipedia articles (ironically, featured in the article). The URL tells you directly what you're reading about. Why is it useful to show it in full? Because page titles are no longer visible during usual browsing sessions - they're shown in tab headers, which means in practice, you only get to see a favicon and maybe a word of the title if you're not a tab hoarder. So once you…
I think you've identified some meaningful next steps to try after highlighting that the origin is the most significant part of the URL. Maybe the omnibox space can show the page title?
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Do you have evidence? Because I remember trying Chrome and immediately switching because it was miles ahead. So did my friends. It was faster and had slicker UI. Nobody keeps using a shittier browser no matter how many times you shove it on their faces. Btw Chrome is still faster than Firefox for stuff that matters and often by a considerable amount: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=chrome83...
I don't really have any evidence (hopefully Google will be required to release that evidence in a monopoly probe) besides what I recall from advertising but security certainly doesn't seem to be the primary factor. Speed certainly brought in a lot of users, but by the time Firefox caught up, I am not sure what the market share was (at first there was a huge difference in performance, I don't think that today's differ…
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Splitting up your plan into discrete parts that seem relatively inert on their own isn't a new thing. ANFO is a good example. And it's pretty easy to do this in a way that front line and low level MGMT Googlers wouldn't know. The AMP lead, for example, has posted here, and seems credible and very competent for his own intentions. I'm not convinced he's totally aware of the intentions of his leadership chain.
You're literally describing a conspiracy theory and dubiously speculating on malicious intentions. That's my point. I'm saying that it's a wacky conspiracy theory that Google is hiding the non-domain parts of the URL to dominate the internet, and you come back with: What if Google leadership was conspiring in such a secret, surreptitious way that middle management and possibly even the AMP lead doesn't know what's go…
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#485My search terms are not relevant to sharing a product ASIN
It seems that Google may view the web browser as an engine that is trying to reinvent native desktop apps. What’s old is new again just with some fancy words and a new generation
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I have 18 windows open in Firefox vs chromium that say otherwise. Why would I lie lol.
Chrome has a more responsive UI, but as for actually rendering and laying out pages, Firefox is usually much faster. I've actually checked with both browsers open side-by-side while developing my own webapps. What's worse, Chrome is super buggy and will often randomly crash on complex CSS or too many table rows, etc.
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#487Remember folks, Apple has been doing this in Safari since 2014. And there's been zero uproar over it at all. I don't understand why people suddenly hate this just because it's Google. For most users, total focus on the domain name is a security feature . For 99% of users, what comes after the domain name might as well be gibberish. I mean, it is a majority of the time.
The first time I used Safari and didn't see a full URL was the last time I used Safari. I didn't raise a fuss or take to twitter, I just stopped using it. I'm probably not alone. In addition, Safari has a very small slice of browser usage in the overall scheme of things. I suspect the uproar would be just as vocal if their usage numbers were in the range of Chrome's.
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#488Something I haven't seen anyone here bring up yet: many URLs are meaningless to humans past the domain. For an example, look at the top of this page. The only semantic meaning in the URL for this post is `news.ycombinator.com`. The rest, `item?id=24156986`, is meaningless to a human. (But, of course, meaningful to HN's backend.) A lot of (most?) of the URLs on the web are not semantic . They're naked application look…
>The rest, `item?id=24156986`, is meaningless to a human Removing Url's is throwing the baby out with the bathwater though. Take Stack Overflow for an example: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53302536/vue-test-utils-... The only thing you need to actually get to the question is https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53302536 , but they intentionally add an extra human readable section for laypeople. If google actual…
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You'd be surprised how often people read URLs to one another over the phone.
i would be very surprised. in my days doing tech support, i quickly learned that this was a completely fruitless exercise as a huge number of people have no idea how to use the URL bar in their browser. they know how to use google, and can click links that are emailed to them or shortcuts in their browser, but simply do not know how to navigate to a URL (even a path-less one). i could usually tell somebody "go to goo…
Re: Google resumes its attack on the URL bar, hides full addresses on Chrome 86
#490Something I haven't seen anyone here bring up yet: many URLs are meaningless to humans past the domain. For an example, look at the top of this page. The only semantic meaning in the URL for this post is `news.ycombinator.com`. The rest, `item?id=24156986`, is meaningless to a human. (But, of course, meaningful to HN's backend.) A lot of (most?) of the URLs on the web are not semantic . They're naked application look…
I am not sure what google tries to accomplish with those changes. Somehow it feels like some UX designer has made this his personal vendetta. Didn't they try it already some months ago and got pretty clear feedback?
If this is about phishing, who established the theory, that people who don't understand URLs, understand how phishing works and that even the slightest deviation in a domain is dangerous?