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Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by jimmydorry »

rhino369 wrote: post #414
brutal_chaos_ wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> as theft (it is) Are you sure digital piracy is theft? Wikipedia defines theft as: "The taking of another person's property or services without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it." Copies are made, sales (possibly) lost, but no property is being taken such that the owner cannot continue to sell/rent/etc it. My take: I'll pay for whatever streaming service that ha…

There isn't much of a difference between digital media and "services." We'd all agree it would a dick move if I walked out of barbershop without paying, even if the barber didn't have any other available customers at the time.

You have robbed them of their finite time, by sitting there, getting your haircut, and then walking out.

A pirate however, does not deplete any of the provider's resources. They don't use computational or transactional resources.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by tomxor »

stiray wrote: post #336

I do give you credit of giving people a quick shot how accurate torrent detection can be if you are a casual user not using VPN. Or not using private trackers. But. You dont know and you are clueless that this is not my ip. Furthermore, I have also checked my phone where I have never downloaded any torrent and you are showing 3 movies. This is just scaremongering. I did a few more tests. For multiple private trackers…

> Furthermore, I have also checked my phone where I have never downloaded any torrent and you are showing 3 movies. This is just scaremongering.

Not sure if this is the same in every country but mobile phones in UK jump around the same IP block pretty frequently (i.e all day long) even when standing still - i'm using this as home internet so i notice.

IP addresses are re-used all the time, this is why it's not usually permissible as evidence in court.

The down side of such frequent IP changes is i'm pretty much permablocked by google and captcha'd to death by them due to frequently swapping IPs with in pool of users with malware (now i've completely given up using google.com).

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by dennisgorelik »

fortran77 wrote: post #374
inetsee wrote: post #345

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I worked on a secure project a very long time ago. A very smart guy (he was working on the operating system for a military avionics computer) printed out some child porn photos on a company color printer. (This was long enough ago that good quality color printers were very expensive, not like now when you can buy a color printer for less than $100.) He got walked out. I don't know what other consequences he suffered.…

See "The Rise and Fall of Patrick Naughton" https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-rise-and-fall-of-patrick-n...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Naughton#Sex_crime_arr...

He ended up serving no prison time, in exchange for working for the FBI for free for a year.

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Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by jankiehodgpodge »

akerro wrote: post #226
sevenf0ur wrote: post #147

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Game of Thrones was the most pirated TV show in history. I remember when the first 4 episodes of season 5 were leaked at once. Christmas came early!

Because it was great and it wasn't available legally in so many countries, or it was with forced reader and no native-English language versions in TV or 480p streaming online. It's most pirated because it was great quality product with low quality service and delivery.

There's was also providers in the UK who's bad video compression made the picture so dark it was unwatchable.

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Post by codezero »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #445
codezero wrote: post #391

The phishing link they have set up to get your friends IP is pretty shady, obviously this stuff is easy to do, but pretty weak to make it easier for folks. https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/link/ There are people with abusive and stupid partners who wouldn't be able to get this information without doing more work or paying money.

Not minimizing your point but I like the obvious reminder of what's possible. Also, the what-bad-guys-might-do klaxon is a powerful tool, is too often used to restrict everyone's abilities.

Yep - I don't mean to admonish the creator of this - it's great to surface this information so people are more informed of how they are monitored online. We all make mistakes, and the world has a lot of good people in it as well as bad ones :)

I also think that without actual regulation/oversight, sometimes the best way to deal with it is absurd overreach, it sometimes is the only thing that wakes people up.

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Post by parsimo2010 »

Pxtl wrote: post #55

This kind of thing is already done heavily by content rights-holders. If you torrent movies or games in Canada without a VPN, you will get nastygrams in your email from the rights-holders via your ISP. They're legally required to do so AFAIK, because even consumer-oriented ISPs that are very privacy driven also forward on those letters. Apparently if you don't reply to those emails you're fine, because they can't esc…

I "had a friend" with a Comcast (or maybe Cox) email address that was given to them when they started with their internet service, but didn't know about. They didn't use a VPN and downloaded thousands of movies and TV shows. Several years after signing up they logged into their account to update their auto-billing info, and it notified them that they had new emails at the email address they had no idea existed. They had literally thousands of these threatening sounding emails and called me in a panic, thinking they were going to have to pay several million dollars. But I calmed them down when told them that they had been getting these emails for several years and nothing else had happened.

Comcast had their personal information to include their home address, so they obviously could have snail-mailed them something or sent a process server if they were actually being sued, but they didn't. I figure that most individuals don't make enough money to make actual lawsuits worth it- what is the court going to do, garnish $10/month from someone flipping burgers?

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Post by mtgp1000 »

Pxtl wrote: post #55

This kind of thing is already done heavily by content rights-holders. If you torrent movies or games in Canada without a VPN, you will get nastygrams in your email from the rights-holders via your ISP. They're legally required to do so AFAIK, because even consumer-oriented ISPs that are very privacy driven also forward on those letters. Apparently if you don't reply to those emails you're fine, because they can't esc…

I believe it was Comcast who was performing payload injection (possibly over https with cert fuckery) a few years ago to display warning overlays that you've been caught torrenting.

That was egregious.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by adrusi »

joe463369 wrote: post #419
sho wrote: post #261

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The only moral problem I have in your anecdote is the lying about it. With every fibre of my being, I could not care less about torrenting game of thrones .

Can you explain why? I can understand why people want things for free, but thinking that you shouldn't contribute towards the production cost of the programme you enjoy seems strange to me.

You can think it's bad to pirate media and still be hard-pressed to care when someone does it.
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