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Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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Am I the only one feeling that we should be thankful that these unicorns (whether actually profitable or driven by crazy VC money) have created so many jobs in the past several years?

Given that they've produced jobs for already-affluent programmers by gutting the security and incomes of the working class, not really,

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Why not go with "work-years"? It has the benefit of being gender neutral and even more relevant.

Seems to imply a different amount of time. Work year would be the amount of time worked in a year (usually ~2000 hours give or take). Sort of like how a work-day is 8 hours rather than 24.

Man/woman/person/dev/etc-year seem to imply an amount of work that is equivalent to a year (~8760 hours).

Or at least that's how I would use those terms. It's entirely possible that these definitions are regional in nature.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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Well I think that's one of the benefits of microservices actually. Cut out all the services that have deep tribal knowledge from people let go and replace them with new services if the service is actually important or just remove it altogether.

What I wonder is how often the "remove" operation happens. I'd wager it's more likely there are many services doing variations of the same thing, but existing ones are hard to kill because there is a web of dependencies.

If they're hard to kill because there are a web of dependencies then I would argue they are doing microservices wrong.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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Are they going to regret having 4,000 micro services now?

Well I think that's one of the benefits of microservices actually. Cut out all the services that have deep tribal knowledge from people let go and replace them with new services if the service is actually important or just remove it altogether.

Why reimplement what is already implemented? This is busywork.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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Sorry, out of curiosity but where are you from? Where you can't walk or cycle 10-20 minutes to a bus stop?

I live in semi-rural Cheshire - we do have pavements and busses (but the busses take hours to get anywhere). We don't have anything as amazing as the tube! If I want to get somewhere outside my village in less than a couple of hours I'd have to use a taxi or drive. But if you go to for example some parts of the US, they literally don't even have pavements let alone busses, let alone tubes. They can't even walk to the…

Yes, I also living in rural Holland where the bus only ran once a hour. Took hours to get to the closest train station to take the train so I understand the pain :)

Yes, one of the reasons you mention is why I never accepted a job in the US as I would be stuck!

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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I’m sure Travis Kalanick is so happy he dumped his shares before all this.

He dumped shares at more than 10% below today's closing price, and almost 20% below today's intraday high. Why would he be happy?

Who cares about today? There are a lot of other days in the future.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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what did those jobs produce?

For Uber specifically? Money, better and cheaper transportation where it sucked, and jobs for much more people than just developers.

had advantages but remuneration for drivers lately it was very comparable to taking a reverse-mortgage on your car. I'm still convinced Uber is not a sustainable business at the scale they operate at.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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You'd think so but that's at least not the impression I've gotten. At Google that's certainly going to be the case but at a company like Uber/Lyft/Airbnb the bloat ends up largely arising due to managerial bloat (managers want to grow their org to make themselves seem more important) and low technical standards for higher level ICs (which results in far more resources used to accomplish each project).

Are you saying that technical standards are lowered as one moves up the IC ladder? If so, how and why?

Where does IC stands for? Probably not intensive care :D

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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I'm not saying anything about anyone's intent either, but it's also painless and traditional just to refrain from unsolicited corrections of people's word choice when there isn't any ill intent to be talked about.

I find it very enlightening when people who find issue with my expression let me know about it in a friendly way. I think the commenter took a lot of care to phrase their concern in a very nice way; when people do this to me I thank them. It’s the only way that I can keep learning how the language changes with time.

If matt_morgan has concern, matt_morgan can personalize his concern, not preach about what's "painless, traditional-grammar-friendly" generally to all. I don't find that friendly, I find it intrusive.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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Developers at unicorns: even in the best of times, do you feel more expendable than you've felt at other jobs? We always are amazed at the number of developers at companies like this. (the numbers I've seen are old, but I guess out of 22,000 employees, it was something like 5000 engineers?) While that allows you to build in a more robust way than a smaller company, it seems like there's no shortage of developers work…

All developers are expendable. If 5% of all developers at any of FAANGM's got hit by a bus, the company would keep moving.

I work at company with less than 100 people, I know where many of the bodies are buried, etc. But if I get hit by a meteor tomorrow, they would send flowers to my wife and open up a req and keep moving.

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