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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by SlowRobotAhead » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:34 PM UTC

333c wrote: post #140

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

For me, I prefer the 4" screen but I can handle a slightly bigger screen. Touch ID is a must and I'm glad they kept it. But the loss of the headphone jack will be bad, so I'll stick with my current SE as long as it's supported.

> so I'll stick with my current SE as long as it's supported.

Seems to me you can assume that’s about to end.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by abruzzi » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:34 PM UTC

koheripbal wrote: post #270

andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

...as someone who absolutely loves big phones - I am on the other side of this argument. I read and watch shows on my phone constantly, and screen size is a major factor for me. I specifically buy clothes with larger pockets to accommodate. I agree that choice would be better - but I imagine that economies of scale sometimes means having only one size for everyone if you want to keep them cheaper than the competition…

But your needs/desires are well catered to by the many many large phones. My needs/desires are completely ignored in the marketplace (maybe too few people agree with me). I tried larger phones. For a year or so I had a iPhone XS, but I absolutely hated it. So a month ago I upgraded it to a used SE, which I love.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by nucleardog » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:35 PM UTC

wiremine wrote: post #397

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

> Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable I think I'm in the minority, but I haven't really missed the headphone jack in my iPhone 11. I have the Echo earbuds, and those have been good to great for my use cases. This continues to feel a bit like the 3.5 floppy and CD-ROM removals from the Mac: a lot of people hated it, until it was a nonissue.

Yeah, I hated the concept but then I picked up an iPhone 8 as the most reasonably-sized flagship I could find and willing to make sacrifices for the size.

It was basically a forced upgrade to bluetooth headphones. I bought some bluetooth over-ear ANC headphones like two weeks later and it really hasn't annoyed me at all since.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by jiveturkey » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:35 PM UTC

samename wrote: post #51

The Dual SIM with eSIM is a nice touch - is this the first iPhone to get it?

bam. that's the feature i need to upgrade my 8.

but iOS still needs profiles. i'm really surprised they haven't done this yet. i wonder if google has patents that make this too expensive (or impossible) to do on iOS.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by randy_tutelage » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:35 PM UTC

acklenx wrote: post #469

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

You say "As a current iPhone SE user... Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable" But you're a current user... so clearly you accepted it. And as long as you do (accept it, keep buying phones without headphone jacks) why would anyone change? The message you are sending (in the only way they care about $$$) is that you do in fact accept phones without headphone jacks. Just reading what you're writing...

You are aware that the current iPhone SE has a headphone jack, right?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by xenonite » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:36 PM UTC

How come that the "white" variant is not "white" on the front side? Like it has always been the case until iPhone 8?

This is a huge disappointment for me. The big reason to have white screen borders is to reduce contrast to light screen backgrounds, which is so much easier on the eyes when reading. And also, white front side is a design classic. Its removal is even a reason for me not to buy the new SE2.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by iso1631 » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:36 PM UTC

acklenx wrote: post #469

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

You say "As a current iPhone SE user... Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable" But you're a current user... so clearly you accepted it. And as long as you do (accept it, keep buying phones without headphone jacks) why would anyone change? The message you are sending (in the only way they care about $$$) is that you do in fact accept phones without headphone jacks. Just reading what you're writing...

The iphone SE came out in 2016, it was an iphone 6s in a 5S case, with the size advantages of a 5s case, but the advantages of a 6s' cpu.

There is still no replacement.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by ryanSrich » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:36 PM UTC

Touch ID alone is enough for me to consider downgrading from my iPhone 11. FaceID is one of the worst features Apple has ever released imo.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by dstaley » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:37 PM UTC

acklenx wrote: post #469

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

You say "As a current iPhone SE user... Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable" But you're a current user... so clearly you accepted it. And as long as you do (accept it, keep buying phones without headphone jacks) why would anyone change? The message you are sending (in the only way they care about $$$) is that you do in fact accept phones without headphone jacks. Just reading what you're writing...

I think you're confused: the original iPhone SE, the one the parent comment is mentioning, has a headphone jack. The new iPhone SE, the one that hasn't been released yet, doesn't.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by iso1631 » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:38 PM UTC

wiremine wrote: post #397

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

> Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable I think I'm in the minority, but I haven't really missed the headphone jack in my iPhone 11. I have the Echo earbuds, and those have been good to great for my use cases. This continues to feel a bit like the 3.5 floppy and CD-ROM removals from the Mac: a lot of people hated it, until it was a nonissue.

You're probably in the majority. One can work around the lack of a 3.5mm jack, it's just a minor pain.

The larger problem with modern phones is the form factor.