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Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by koboll »

callmeed wrote: post #336
koboll wrote: post #326

I do digital painting on the side, as a hobby. In that field, the iPad Pro, specifically the Procreate app, has been revolutionary -- every single famous digital illustrator, concept artist, and comics artist I follow on Instagram has one, and they post gorgeous work done on them regularly. It's the only tool that comes remotely close to challenging the gold standard workflow of Wacom tablet + Photoshop, and Wacom an…

Would you mind sharing some of your favorite IG follows for illustration? I'm just getting into this on the iPad.

Some favorites off the top of my feed:

- karlkopinski

- justingerardillustration

- joel_chaim_holtzman

- kienan_lafferty

- thealexrossart

- spudonkey

- miles_art

- etheringtonbrothers

- monafinden

- jesper_ejsing

- evanefimov

- deviantart (yes, they have an insta)

- aaronmiller

- tfiddlerart

- superani.insta

- julbenart

- sparth

- arielolivetti

- mattdixonart

- devburmak

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by neighbour »

mdorazio wrote: post #363
koboll wrote: post #326

I do digital painting on the side, as a hobby. In that field, the iPad Pro, specifically the Procreate app, has been revolutionary -- every single famous digital illustrator, concept artist, and comics artist I follow on Instagram has one, and they post gorgeous work done on them regularly. It's the only tool that comes remotely close to challenging the gold standard workflow of Wacom tablet + Photoshop, and Wacom an…

I'm curious why iPad Pro and not Surface, which from my (admittedly limited) use has always had digitizer responsiveness and functionality at the same level, with the benefit of also being a computer with all the normal software workflow and hotkeys.

Many digital artists I know had numerous problems with Surface products. Many shipped with severe backlight bleed and returning it for a new one didn't help because they all had the same issue.

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Post by Fr0styMatt88 »

jarjoura wrote: post #480

As someone who worked on the iPad v1, I can tell you, it was a product built in search of a problem. It was going to compete against the, then, growing Netbook market. Steve Jobs thought Windows was going to win that market and hastily threw a team together to answer for it. However, during several all-hands, no one except SJ seemed even remotely excited about the product. "These things will probably sell in the educ…

I still remember people saying that the iPad was just going to be a big iPhone and what is the point?

I NEVER understood this. I was one of those people that was immediately excited about the iPad. Being able to lay back in bed and casually browse the web, read magazines, watch movies, play games? On something with a decently large screen, decent battery life and something that wasn't bulky? PLEASE TAKE MY MONEY!!!!

It really surprises me to hear that there wasn't much excitement inside Apple for it. I now have the first generation of the 12.9-inch iPad Pro and it's just about always in my bag with me.

I do think it's a shame you can't really develop apps ON the device. I'm glad the OS is getting more capable with the direction they're taking, so who knows? We might get Xcode one day :)

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Post by baroomba »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #17
lowkeyokay wrote: post #11

>By 1994 almost all graphic designers and illustrators were using computers for work. The iPad is a great device but, it isn't essential to anything or anyone. If tomorrow there where no iPads anymore, we would all just get on with our lives.

That's because it's a consumption device, despite the heroic efforts of some people to prove otherwise. If I want to reply to an email I'll walk upstairs to my real computer rather than attempt to do it on our iPad. As Joey Hess said[1] "If it doesn't have a keyboard, I feel that my thoughts are being forced out through a straw." [1] https://usesthis.com/interviews/joey.hess/

Software developers continuing, after all these years, to dismiss any kind of creative work with a computer that isn’t typing, is crazy. I’d take an iPad over a laptop or desktop computer for lots of creative work, if I could only have one device.

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Post by hsitz »

GranPC wrote: post #468
derefr wrote: post #455

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Running x86 binaries under software emulation, and forking off arbirary ARM binaries, aren’t the only two alternatives. You can do what Wine or gVisor does: run native-architecture code, but virtualize system calls as calls into the host binary.

You can't run arbitrary unsigned machine code on iOS. Interpreting it is the only solution.

Unfortunately, that slows things down with iSH a lot. iSH gives surprisingly complete Linux environment, complete with ability to install most of the packages you'd want. There's even an iSH folder in the Files app that gives easy ability to interchange files between iSH and the regular iPad environment. However, the emulation layer slows the Linux applications down quite a lot. Depending on your needs, though, might still be good solution for some things.

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Post by rorykoehler »

lostgame wrote: post #397
rorykoehler wrote: post #54

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In my experience that has more to do with the artificial limitations devs put into ipad software. Take MPC drum machines for example. iMPC Pro 2 could replace all hardware MPCs if they wanted to but they would cannibalize their hardware if they did that so they made the ipad version a toy instead.

In absolutely no way is this the case. The iPads screen will always be a toy compared to proper AKAI pads. It’s not even velocity-sensitive.

Fair point but it's much further hamstrung than it needs to be and it would be easy to add velocity after the performance.

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Post by hsitz »

tasogare wrote: post #359
Terretta wrote: post #332

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Fully agree. I think Gruber’s dead wrong, and folks should try it for a couple months. Leave the Macbook or Win10 laptop at home, and force yourself to rewire your brain into the iPad affordances and apps. Aside from being able to turn his complaint off: To turn Multitasking features on or off, go to Settings > Home Screen & Dock > Multitasking then turn off Allow Multiple Apps if you don't want to use Slide Over or…

> folks should try it for a couple months. Leave the Macbook or Win10 laptop at home, and force yourself to rewire your brain into the iPad affordances and apps. Hell no. The iPad is a nice PDF reading machine with its retina display and the pencil is a joy to use but the device is barely usable for any text entry and don't support any real programming workflow. However some shortcomings can also be positive, in part…

iPad is not just great machine to read on, it's a great machine to write on, too. There are loads of excellent editors to write in, e.g., iVim, iA Writer, Scrivener, Ulysses. I use an iPad Pro in portrait mode (i.e., vertical orientation) with a Microsoft Wedge bluetooth keyboard. It's a great writing environment.

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Post by amiga_500 »

snapetom wrote: post #411
Fiahil wrote: post #269

I completely agree with this article. The iPad hardware is absolutely wonderful, it's light, gorgeous and powerful. I got the latest iPad pro to watch Netflix in bed and it fills that purpose completely. However, the OS running on the machine is bad. Very bad. The multitasking is horrifying. The Files app is unusable (especially if you want to access your files from an FTP server). You have to use your finger to sele…

I feel that Apple has lost its way with OS design in the past 5 years or so. Not at a macro level, but at a micro, "little things" level. Launch anything Apple-written these days and you'll get a wizard telling you how to use some new widget - just like any other software by anyone else. I don't think Apple has ever done that before because features were designed so well, you can easily figure it out. Then there are…

Itunes was utterly terrible. My iphone is terrible.

Apple make very, very bad software. And their hardware is overpriced. And they deliberately make people pay more for accessories like their pointless new audio port.

Android is superior in every way, except (I'm told) on privacy.

I cannot comprehend why anyone buys apple. I have to have apple for my work phone, and I hate it. Just today I was wrestling with their dreadful podcast app to try to figure out how to get it to play the podcasts in the order the episodes are enumerated in, which isn't the default. I still haven't found the 'playlist' part. Find in page on a web page took me ages to find. I cannot select the middle of a word. Their auto-correct corrects words that are nicknames or abbreviations by default to some totally inappropriate word. Their files app truncates the name, so when I download several episodes of a podcast, all of which have the format "long podcast name episode #" all I see is "long podcast name ..." eight times. Moving icons from one virtual page to another is clunky. The equivalent of a drop down where you have some weird rotating drum thing is awkward. Adding a contact from a text from an unknown number was convoluted. There are no timestamps on incoming text messages on the text app. On and on. Every single bit sucks.

And no I don't want to hear how I can "just do x,y,z, it's easy". Their software is not intuitive and sucks.

Today at least I got the audio jack to stop constantly disconnecting. The problem? Lint in the audio jack. Never had that on the old one but Apple couldn't charge me $10 to connect my existing headphones to their device so I guess it was worth it.

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by acqq »

icebraining wrote: post #113
acqq wrote: post #36

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> The worst thing is that the forced over-simplification of the UI features did not make it easier to use for beginners. I believe Gruber argues completely the opposite: that the recent changes to add features like split screen make it more confusing (e.g. the example of his mother getting stuck in the split screen and calling him). He continues in the very article we comment here (emphasis mine): "if I could go back…

Not just Steve Jobs: the development of the Apple Newton (arguably the precursor to the iPad) was in part led by Larry "NO MODES" Tesler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Tesler http://www.nomodes.com/

Yes! Thanks!

"Primary inventor of modeless editing and cut, copy, paste."

http://www.nomodes.com/Larry_Tesler_Consulting/CV_files/NOMO...

Since cca 1973.

Reference: doi:10.1145/2212877.2212896

Re: The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by jdminhbg »

mort96 wrote: post #451
irrational wrote: post #172

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Same here. My grandmother is 97. She grew up as a shepherdess during the great depression, was a nurse during WWII, and then raised 6 children. She has no technical training, but she can use an iPad with no trouble while she always struggled using a desktop computer or laptop. iPads really are great for her use case.

My experience is similar, but my grandmother has gotten worse at using her iPad as iOS has gotten more and more confusing. I usually see her with Safari in split-screen as Gruber mentioned, and know that: A) there's not really any way to teach her to get out of it because the gestures literally require more precise movements than her fingers are capable of, and B) there's no way to teach her to avoid open Safari in s…

Just in case you haven't seen any of the updates elsewhere, there is an Accessibility setting to turn off multi-tasking/split-screen that would most likely help your grandmother: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207582
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