16-inch MacBook Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by eugeniub » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:42 PM UTC

blhack wrote: post #373

It's hilarious to me that their own marketing image has two dongles plugged into the laptop so that the user can still use USB. Apple please for the love of usability: please give me back USB. I AM the pro that you want to feature in every one of your marketing videos. I have a music studio in my house, I build interactive lighting installations for the biggest music festivals in the world, I build custom hardware co…

What type of ports are you using that require USB-A on the laptop end? Pretty much every port I know of has a USB-C cable for it, no dongle necessary. Since 2016 I've slowly gotten USB-C-to-Lightning, USB-C-to-micro USB, USB-C-to-HDMI cables, etc. I gave away most of my USB-A to friends.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by beshur » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:42 PM UTC

skrause wrote: post #411

saintx wrote: post #301

People make a lot of noise about the missing function keys. But the keys that I miss the most on my 2018 Macbook Pro are the "E" and "SHIFT" keys.

I donn't miss any keeys, somee eeveenn work twice as eefficieennt.

This freaks me out soo much

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by guyzero » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:43 PM UTC

saintx wrote: post #301

People make a lot of noise about the missing function keys. But the keys that I miss the most on my 2018 Macbook Pro are the "E" and "SHIFT" keys.

T and N went first for me

It's like a global monte carlo letter frequency measurement experiment

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by antonyh » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:45 PM UTC

bxparks wrote: post #413

DennisP wrote: post #297

I wish it had one USB-A. I plug in a mechanical keyboard, and when a job provided the previous macbook pro, I managed to lose or break a dongle about once a month.

Yup, the lack of USB-A (and the removal of the ESC key) is the reason I stopped buying MacBooks after many enjoyable years of using the MBA11, 2 x MBA13, and the 2015 MBP13 (arguably the best laptop ever made). Every peripheral that I own is on USB-A. Adding USB-C is great, but why remove USB-A? I just don't get it.

Also the SD-card reader. That was a deal breaker for me, I use these as much as USB keys.

I use a laptop with a reader, the card is flush (not sticking out) and it's a great way of expanding storage. It's also the best way of getting photos out of digital cameras. Wireless is so much slower.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by cracker_jacks » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:45 PM UTC

I agree that the improvements like the ESC key and 16" screen are good things.

But is it strange to anyone else that a company that prides itself on being innovative and motto is "think different" is parading around a screen size change and a keyboard regression as the biggest selling points for a product launch?

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by chx » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:46 PM UTC

Is anyone else wondering about that 8TB SSD bit? Unless they have four M.2 slots which I doubt they must use 4TB SSDs and that'd be QLC which sucks.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by SZJX » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #292

charleshan wrote: post #184

Don't forget that the Touch Bar costs an additional $400 for consumers. The 2015 model was the best MacBook Pro. Perhaps the best laptop yet.

It always seemed backwards that the touch bar is a pro feature. Aren't pros the group that learn all the keyboard commands? The touch bar seems like it would be most useful to non-pro users.

Seems that their idea of "pros" are mostly people like music creators and photographers, not really developers.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by ctdonath » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

blhack wrote: post #373

It's hilarious to me that their own marketing image has two dongles plugged into the laptop so that the user can still use USB. Apple please for the love of usability: please give me back USB. I AM the pro that you want to feature in every one of your marketing videos. I have a music studio in my house, I build interactive lighting installations for the biggest music festivals in the world, I build custom hardware co…

I've observed that sentiment applied to innumerable interfaces for decades. Interfaces change. The change is painful, but moves us forward to better.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by AtlasBarfed » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

ses1984 wrote: post #80

"I'm so glad this model has a touchbar" "I would buy a dell xps but only if it had a touchbar" things no one ever said.

A touchbar above the function keys would have been a radical improvement if it helped explain what the Fn keys did. Or leds in the keys that allowed them to show icons for what they did.

If I wanted a super-sexy fn experience, I'd have function keys with leds for changeable icons, and a bigger touchbar above it for app-specific bling.

And I'd drop the size of the touchpad. That thing is too big, the retina one was more than adequate.

And there's no option to get legacy ports, but it's Apple, ports are a religious jihad not a customer convenience.\.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by peruvian » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

cracker_jacks wrote: post #485

I agree that the improvements like the ESC key and 16" screen are good things. But is it strange to anyone else that a company that prides itself on being innovative and motto is "think different" is parading around a screen size change and a keyboard regression as the biggest selling points for a product launch?

This release is essentially a "we messed up, this is what you wanted all long", but they can't say that so they're using the regular MBP marketing talk.

Not hating - I am getting this laptop.