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Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

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Given their stated mission:

> OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity.

I'm struck by the homogeneity the OpenAI team.

https://openai.com/content/images/2019/07/openai-team-offsit...

It seems to be mostly white people and a few Asians, without a single black or Hispanic person.

Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

#482

Given their stated mission: > OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. I'm struck by the homogeneity the OpenAI team. https://openai.com/content/images/2019/07/openai-team-offsit... It seems to be mostly white people and a few Asians, without a single black or Hispanic person.

How does that matter? Does diversity for the cause of diversity lead to better results? Is there any data around this?

Hiring the most qualified people is the most important thing. As long as there isn't an inherent bias for not hiring someone who is hispanic, black, or brown, it should b e fine.

Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

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New York Times has a bit more context > Mr. Nadella said Microsoft would not necessarily invest that billion dollars all at once. It could be doled out over the course of a decade or more. Microsoft is investing dollars that will be fed back into its own business, as OpenAI purchases computing power from the software giant, and the collaboration between the two companies could yield a wide array of technologies. http…

Totally agree... but also think the world will benefit as well. "Microsoft is investing dollars that will be fed back into its own business, as OpenAI purchases computing power from the software giant, and the collaboration between the two companies could yield a wide array of technologies.

Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

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post #64

New York Times has a bit more context > Mr. Nadella said Microsoft would not necessarily invest that billion dollars all at once. It could be doled out over the course of a decade or more. Microsoft is investing dollars that will be fed back into its own business, as OpenAI purchases computing power from the software giant, and the collaboration between the two companies could yield a wide array of technologies. http…

Totally agree... but also think the world will benefit as well. "Microsoft is investing dollars that will be fed back into its own business, as OpenAI purchases computing power from the software giant, and the collaboration between the two companies could yield a wide array of technologies.

1 billion worth of Azure credits?

Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

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I'm surprised to see the amount of downvotes that follow negativity pointed at Microsoft. What's going on here? EDIT: Oh. I see. I wasn't aware that OpenAI was a YC thing. I've been a member of Hacker News through various accounts for countless years, however this is the first time I've seen moderation pushing towards an obvious YC agenda. Very interesting... EDIT2: Actually, after reading the comments - I find it mo…

I can't really tell what you're saying, but if you're insinuating foul play, I haven't seen evidence of that in this thread. In any case, the site guidelines ask you to email hn@ycombinator.com with concerns instead of posting comments about them.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

#486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A computer can run many programs and do a great many things, but it will never be able to think by itself. A computer being able to simulate a brain that thinks for itself is the logical extrapolation of current brain-simulation efforts. Many people think there are far less computationally intensive ways to make an AI, but "physics sim of a human brain" is a good thought experiment. Unless you think there's somethi…

> A computer being able to simulate a brain that thinks for itself is the logical extrapolation of current brain-simulation efforts Except that our current neural networks have nothing to do with the actual neurons in our brain and how they work.

I believe ekianjo wasn't talking about neural networks, but simulations using models that are similar to how neurons work. Computational neuroscience is a thing.

Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought from day one that the name «OpenAI» would at best be a slight misnomer, and at worst indicative of a misguided approach. If AGI is close to being achieved, sharing key details of the approach to any actors at all could trigger a Manhattan Project-type global arms race where safety was compromised and the whole thing became insanely risky for the future of humanity. Glad to see that the team is taking a prag…

Not to worry. No one is anywhere close to achieving true AGI so any safety concerns are a moot issue. It's akin to worrying about an alien invasion.

AGI = Alien invasion

Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

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Congrats on the investment, but this release reads like a parody. I believe that building a beneficial warp-drive engine will be the most important technological development in human history, with the potential to shape the trajectory of humanity. The aliens we're sure to encounter will be capable of mastering more fields than any one human — like a tool which combines the skills of Curie, Turing, and Bach. An alien…

(I work at OpenAI.) It comes down to whether you believe AGI is achievable. We've talked about why we think it might be: https://medium.com/syncedreview/openai-founder-short-term-ag... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCSNsLKHfM And we certainly have more of a plan for building it than warp drives :). EDIT: I personally think the case for near-term AGI is strong enough that it'd be hard for me work on any other pro…

How do you give a computer domain-general intelligence (as opposed to the combination of a bunch of domain-specific skills like language, math, visual recognition, speech processing, etc)?

There is a lot of evidence that human intelligence is domain-general, not domain-specific (as in modularity of mind). I haven't seen a good answer to this question regarding AGI.

Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

#489

Given their stated mission: > OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. I'm struck by the homogeneity the OpenAI team. https://openai.com/content/images/2019/07/openai-team-offsit... It seems to be mostly white people and a few Asians, without a single black or Hispanic person.

How does that matter? Does diversity for the cause of diversity lead to better results? Is there any data around this? Hiring the most qualified people is the most important thing. As long as there isn't an inherent bias for not hiring someone who is hispanic, black, or brown, it should b e fine.

What you're posing is an age-old counterargument based around an irrational fear of white people experiencing prejudice and losing out on opportunities to underqualified people they would have otherwise had.

There have been studies done around diversity, conducted both privately and publicly, which consistently conclude that increased diversity does result in enhanced decision-making, collaboration, and organizational value-add due to the different perspectives having a net positive influence rather than neutral or negative.

Beyond pragmatism, from an idealist perspective aiding in increasing organizational diversity is the morally right thing to do. That doesn't mean hiring underqualified people; it means refusing to fill the position until the right person is found, which is a whole other problem on its own.

Here are some resources to get started: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/diversity-work-group-p... https://journals.aom.org/doi/abs/10.5465/1556374

Re: Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My "guess" is they're offering $1B worth of Azure services. Which costs MSFT probably much less than $1B. My "guess" is that it means MSFT has access to sell products based off the research OpenAI does to MSFT's customers. Having early access to advanced research means MSFT could easily make this money back by selling better AI tools to their customers. Also a great time to point out that while "Microsoft is not a ch…

> My "guess" is they're offering $1B worth of Azure services. Which costs MSFT probably much less than $1B. It's a cash investment. We certainly do plan to be a big Azure customer though. > My "guess" is that it means MSFT has access to sell products based off the research OpenAI does to MSFT's customers. Having early access to advanced research means MSFT could easily make this money back by selling better AI tools…

Sorry for the cowardice of this throwaway account, but it freaks me out that Musk left, and Thiel is still there.

Going back in time:

> Musk has joined with other Silicon Valley notables to form OpenAI, which was launched with a blog post Friday afternoon. The group claimed to have the goal “to advance digital intelligence in the way that is most likely to benefit humanity as a whole, unconstrained by a need to generate financial return.”

What happened here?

I know it’s far off, but I am concerned about AGI misanthropy and the for-profit turn of OpenAI. Who is the humanist anchor, of Elon’s gravitas, left at OpenAI?

What happened to the original mission? Are any of you concerned about this? Can you get rid of Peter Thiel please? Can we buy him out as a species? I respect the man’s intellect yet truly fear his misanthropy and influence.

Apologies for the rambling, but you all got me freaked out a bit. I had, and still do have such high hopes for OpenAI.

Please don’t lose the forest for the trees.

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