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Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Post by the_pwner224 »

kowdermeister wrote: post #443
hobofan wrote: post #417

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Is having multiple (non-company) Google accounts allowed per their TOC?

Since you don't need to verify your true identity, such rule would be totally pointless even if it were there.

For a number of years now you have to give a phone number to make an account. Doesn't need to be a one-to-one mapping, but it still connects the accounts.

It can be evaded by using multiple phone numbers, but if you're working that hard to not be violated by Google then chances are you aren't using Google in the first place.

Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Post by vortico »

unreal37 wrote: post #467
vortico wrote: post #27

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Most Constitution-respecting Americans will disagree. Committing a crime is not OK. Conveying information for learning is always OK.

Really? "It shall be unlawful for any person... to teach or demonstrate the making or use of an explosive, a destructive device, or a weapon of mass destruction..."[1] Teaching bomb making is not legal. Passed the senate 94-0, no objections. There are things you can't teach. [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/842

You omitted the important part: "...with the intent that the teaching, demonstration, or information be used for, or in furtherance of, an activity that constitutes a Federal crime of violence." The teaching alone is legal. The intent to set up someone to commit a crime is what makes it illegal. I can legally teach you how to make a bomb if I do not intend for you to use it for crime.

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Post by golemiprague »

jlmorton wrote: post #70

There's a lot of bad content on the Internet, and a lot of people wanted to ban it. And the free speech absolutists said, that's a slippery slope. Once you start restricting speech beyond whatever is illegal, there will be no end to the demands to ban certain content. And a lot of us said, slippery slopes are silly arguments. All we're asking is to ban overt racism and calls to violence. We can evaluate these things…

Calls for violence is indeed against the law in the US, overt racism is against the law in some countries so global companies must adhere if they want to operate there, at least blocking it in those countries.

The problem is also how do you define what is racist, what is just facts and what is just blocked because of political reasons. That's why the American constitution approach is much better on that issue. Calls for violence on the other hand is much easier to define.

I wish all those tech companies would just define their policy as whatever is legal is ok, they are too big and more like an essential platform like electricity or water monopolies. You don't want a phone company to create their own guide lines about the content in their network as if they are some private club with its own rules.

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Post by jrumbut »

kbenson wrote: post #312
chrshawkes wrote: post #138

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While Google created that walled city, they also destroyed every other city into a pile of rubble after tapping into endless resources from a completely unrelated industry. YouTube had an unfair advantage over just about any other company trying to build something similar. Google is famous for making things free until they are not, than your screwed. I like when they arbitrarily change rules about SEO, AMP's and such…

The more this metaphor is fleshed out the more it sounds like it's referring to civilization in general and how ancient cities/city-states actually operated (to some level of similarity). Build a city, invite people in, tax them and rule them, and destroy or absorb every rival you can get away with. Have technology or resources your competitor doesn't have? Sucks to be them. I guess I'm not that surprised that even t…

Yeah, that's exactly how it was. Then we pushed for the rule of law, a set of fundamental rights, democracy, and a social safety net and while this stuff still happens it's a lot better than it was.

Time will tell if we're able to keep it up. Certainly there are new threats and opportunities.

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Post by rurp »

jammygit wrote: post #330
chrshawkes wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While Google created that walled city, they also destroyed every other city into a pile of rubble after tapping into endless resources from a completely unrelated industry. YouTube had an unfair advantage over just about any other company trying to build something similar. Google is famous for making things free until they are not, than your screwed. I like when they arbitrarily change rules about SEO, AMP's and such…

Is there a way to disable amp in my browser? It’s hard to get to the real sites

Use Firefox and/or DuckDuckGo.

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Post by pzmarzly »

EnFinlay wrote: post #54
gen3 wrote: post #31

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Do you have any recommendations on channels to archive?

- Many convention talks are really good and are too many to list - OWASP - zseano - hackerone - Bugcrowd (Jason Haddix's stuff is a pretty important pillar) - OWASP - DarkOperator - Absolute AppSec - KacperSzureEN - PwnFunction - LiveOverflow There are a ton more, these are just ones I've been watching in the past 6 months or so.

You missed a 'k' in 'KacperSzurekEN' - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDbNNYUME_pgocqarSjfNGw

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Post by root_axis »

50656E6973 wrote: post #477
root_axis wrote: post #310

You want YouTube to be one way, but it's the other way. Protest. Boycott. Build alternatives. This is how you fight corrupt corporations. It makes no sense to force YouTube to host all content for free. YouTube is a video entertainment business, it's not insulin or a house. Again, it's a video entertainment site. It is wholly unimportant in reality. The only power YouTube has is the power society willingly gives it b…

>it's not insulin or a house. Again, it's a video entertainment site. It is wholly unimportant in reality. It's the greatest library of educational content in human history.

Why do you think that? YouTube has lots of content, some of it excellent, but the vast majority of it is of dubious educational quality with tons of trash and misinformation. Much of the educational content that is worthwhile is also superficial compared to other sites on the internet that have quality and accuracy standards for their content. Some examples include khan academy, coursera, and udemy. I'd even include wikipedia before YouTube.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouTub...

YouTube is mostly about video entertainment.

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