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U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by mayhaffs »

Slartie wrote: post #388
peteretep wrote: post #334

By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…

Even more annoying is the same thing that they do with email notifications. They seem to keep inventing new "categories" of notifications all the time that I haven't yet opted out of - basically because I seem to be only able to opt out of just that specific category that they just sent me an email about, when I click on the "don't want to receive any more of these mails" link below the message. And every time, they…

It’s completely absurd.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by dbdjfjrjvebd »

pjc50 wrote: post #452
dbdjfjrjvebd wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This works because applications truly aren’t being fully uninstalled from the device, they are just being uninstalled for the current user

If it's not running and doesn't send you notifications or demand updates, do you care all that much?

In many ways no. NB the same can be achieved by disabling the App in settings?

There is the principal of who owns the device... But that is a slightly different topic.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by edem »

peteretep wrote: post #334

By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…

There was a point when I got fed up and unsubscribed from all notifications from everything. Now I only operate in pull-mode. I check my things 1-2 times a day and I receive zero notifications. My life is much better now!

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by martin-adams »

collyw wrote: post #479
throwmeback wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I opted out of all emails altogether - I only check my notifications once in a while. I've never missed anything of value.

> I've never missed anything of value. How can you be sure of that if you didn't see it?

It's still there when you check it once in a while, just you don't need to be distracted by it constantly. I also have turned off notifications for all social media and email. I feel happier and embrace having peace being okay with maybe missing out on something.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by nicky0 »

jeffhuys wrote: post #428
throwmeback wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I opted out of all emails altogether - I only check my notifications once in a while. I've never missed anything of value.

Then why do you still check it?

There is some useful content and updates in the groups I am a member of.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

collyw wrote: post #480
giancarlostoro wrote: post #460

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If on Android I recommend the Facebook Lite app. Its not as obnoxious and on Android you can tell the OS to ignore all notifications from an app. The lite version of Facebook is probably the only worthy version, I just wish it could be firewalled so you know when it tries to use network access and lock it down to just when you open the app. I assume Lite Android apps arent allowed to use much data but I could be maki…

The full fat messenger is the most annoying app I have ever used. It's like a small child constantly trying to get your attention when you are busy with other tasks.

Yeah, they have Messenger Lite, but I rather not have two apps for the same website. You can go on Messenger.com though if you want a web only experience.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by bsaul »

peteretep wrote: post #334

By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…

You can almost get a glimpse of the financial health of a company by the number of bullshit messages they send you. The trend is especially important. Just like you i’ve noticed facebook getting spammier and spammier, starting from the middle of last year. Which means things were probably starting to smell funky around that period

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Post by chimprich »

grecy wrote: post #433
peteretep wrote: post #334

By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…

Yup, it has become staggering. I frequently get notifications on my personal page to say my business page has a notification. That notification turns out be to "Your users have not heard from you in a while, write a post". I get this all the time, even when I have written a post within the last five hours. I would say on average I get 5 notifications per day that are utterly useless.

The page notifications are infuriating. I'm a co-owner of my mother's business page (barely a business really, almost more of a hobby). She can barely use Facebook and just uses the page for basic communication with a few dozen people but she/we are constantly bombarded by notifications about HOW MANY USERS we could reach AND WHY DON'T YOU BOOST THIS POST. Hey, your customers haven't heard from Facebook in 10 minutes! Why don't you give them another notification!?

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by swozey »

pnw_hazor wrote: post #321

Social media is weird. At the beginning of this year I unfriended everyone and unsubscribed from every group/page except for a couple parent groups of schools my kids are at. It was odd how it felt like betrayal to unfriend people I know and love. Though experiencing those feelings for something as dumb as FB did confirm to me how evil social media is. The human mind isn't really configured to handle social media. It…

I deleted my FB last year and was really concerned, like you were, about offending people. I messaged my then girlfriend "hey I'm deleting fb" just so she'd know. I have friends that while we're not super close we'd talk a few times a week, usually just sending funny jokes. They didn't see me on messenger so they just texted me. They didn't even realize I'd deleted it. One of my closer friends who invites me to her kids birthdays and what not went to send me an invite and made me an evite when she didn't see my account. She was surprised when I told her I just deleted fb.

I realized I really had never gone to anyones actual profile page in maybe a year or two. Hell, the last profile I may have actually taken more than a cursory glance at was my ex when we first started dating. I guess nobody else does either when you can just @them.

With that said I do feel very out of the loop but it's allowed me to focus on my own life and I'm on a social media cleanse (doh, hn) anyway.

Interestingly enough I do keep having feelings about reopening it but I permanently deleted so I can't and I'm glad I did. Prior to that I had temporarily closed it and reopened it a handful of times.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by eeZah7Ux »

kristianc wrote: post #349
no_wizard wrote: post #287

Here's the kicker, which I think others have pointed out, but I want to say this succinctly: First, to quote the article: > The big gainer, interestingly, is under the same roof as Facebook. It's their co-owned Instagram Now, to my point: The average person does not care about privacy, just the illusion of privacy (I suspect people reading this site intuitively know this. At some level, nearly everyone is in differen…

> The survey says: 9 out of ten americans care deeply about privacy (particuarly around data privacy and collection) This is a problem with focus groups. Ask people 'do you care about your privacy', and almost everyone will answer yes. There's almost zero social cost to answering that question in the affirmative. On the other hand, there's a good deal of social sacrifice in leaving these platforms for good. More like…

You have the exact same pattern around road/airplane/food safety, hygiene and disease control, housing quality, and much more...

All problems that people care about but the average person cannot tackle autonomously.

And that's why societies implemented regulatory bodies (often through national governments, but that's not a requirement).

GDPR is a small step in that direction.

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