Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps

Post by trumped » Fri, Feb 01, 2019, 1:21 AM UTC

_bxg1 wrote: post #21

dombili wrote: post #4

I don't want to pass judgment on whether Google (or in the previous case, Facebook) was in the wrong, but it doesn't sit well with me that Apple wields so much power on what software their phones can run after it sells them. You may very well think that they're using their power sparingly and benevolently, but who is to say that will be the case next time around?

I used to feel that way, and I used Android for years for that reason. But since switching to an iPhone, I've found that what I really want from my phone is not a totally open platform, but a tool that's simple, secure, and effective. Something I don't have to mess with, something I can trust to do its job and respect my privacy and be pleasant to interact with. They tried going that direction a bit with macOS when t…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Feb 01, 2019, 1:22 AM UTC

wutbrodo wrote: post #378

51lver wrote: post #343

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You're not wrong, you're just in the wrong place. Apple is the sysadmin and the phone holders are the users. They WANT apple looking out for them. Anyone who says otherwise stupidly wasted $1000 when they could have bought any number of unlockable devices for that money. I say this with an unlocked and de-googled android phone next to me, and several hacked arm devices at home. I OWN THEM, with no doubt, so I agree w…

Is this true of people who voluntarily signed up to be paid for data collection? It's like saying that Nielsen panelists need to be protected from Nielsen by Vizio. (Insert standard caveat about the degree to which kids' autonomy is in the hands of their parents).

Post by saagarjha » Fri, Feb 01, 2019, 1:24 AM UTC

dangerbird2 wrote: post #293

hart_russell wrote: post #275

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You are still able to sideload apps, just not at an enterprise level.

You need a mac with Xcode to sideload apps for iOS (unless you want to deal with jailbreaking)

Post by saagarjha » Fri, Feb 01, 2019, 1:25 AM UTC

jyrkesh wrote: post #447

driverdan wrote: post #291

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Of course you should. It's my device, I should be able to do what I want with it. The default should be protected but root should be available.

I 100% agree with you. I should be able to run any code on my device (after I flip a bit and it gets wiped). The first thing I've done with every Nexus or Pixel purpose is to wipe and root it. But that's not what this is about. Apple has been enforcing these rules for years. F.lux tried to get around the App Store by reaching users how to sideload via Xcode. Apple killed it. The big players should be subject to the s…

Post by 0x54D5 » Fri, Feb 01, 2019, 1:26 AM UTC

bastawhiz wrote: post #465

pier25 wrote: post #210

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I've worked on enterprise iOS apps that were also shared to some of our customers. I've always felt super paranoid about it and thought Apple would shut us down... Seeing what's going on with Facebook and Google I guess Apple didn't pay much attention to this.

If you're sharing your apps with customers for very benign purposes, I doubt they'd care. For instance, if you were giving customers access to your business's data or some sort of internal app that provides functionality that you wouldn't want to make public. That seems very reasonable, and might not even be outside the ToS (IANAL, and I haven't read them). In both Google and Facebook's cases, they were using it to d…