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Re: Lime and Bird are growing rapidly

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Post by jobigoud »

ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #478
6cd6beb wrote: post #457

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I'm in my early thirties and feel the same way. A lot of people do. Looking at something and saying "I don't think I would do that because it would be very embarrassing" is a thing adults can do.

>> Looking at something and saying "I don't think I would do that because it would be very embarrassing" is a thing adults can do. And its exactly a moment when one should stop for a second and ask him/herself a question "why would I feel so"? Wearing glasses, reading books, dyeing hair with some tint, preferring pieces of clothing of some fashion or other, riding a personal vehicle that is supposedly beneficial for…

Dyeing hair and choosing clothes are a matter of style preference, so why can't people think they don't like their style appearance on a scooter?

I agree it's weird but clearly as we see for cars, choice of vehicle is also driven by style preferences. E.g most people wouldn't buy a pink car with green polka dots.

Re: Lime and Bird are growing rapidly

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Post by iso1337 »

justinator wrote: post #296
iso1337 wrote: post #242

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Most people I know don't know how to, or couldn't be bothered to, change a bicycle tire. You have to also bring around a spare tire, a portable air pump, etc... or face the prospect of walking your bike somewhere. Perhaps we should differentiate here between bike ownership and these bike/scooter share approaches. Scooters also have flat tires. Compare ownership to a shared scooter or bike service, where these costs a…

HN is full of smart people - changing a bike tire isn't beyond the pale of the intelligence herein. :)

Sadly the world isn't comprised of only HN smart people :)

Re: Lime and Bird are growing rapidly

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Post by 0xADEADBEE »

kristianc wrote: post #375
0xADEADBEE wrote: post #295

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It's a great question! It's honestly not too bad, although every now and again I flirt with throwing in the towel on account of the fact I'm sure I'm not really making a difference to the data collection at large. I browse with Firefox, an ad-blocker CookieAutoDelete and NoScript also, which sounds horrific, but actually works well (although I'm under no illusions that combined with routing my traffic through a VPS a…

> I browse with Firefox, an ad-blocker CookieAutoDelete and NoScript also, which sounds horrific, but actually works well I’m interested by this as every time I have tried to browse with NoScript it has indeed been completely horrific.

It was a bit of a nightmare for the first day or two, but I was buoyed by seeing how many external tracking scripts are automatically loaded on websites that I never expected that from. It's largely seamless once you've whitelisted the things you like, but it takes a couple of days.

One recent example where I packed it in and just used Safari instead was buying a flight - I've found airline websites to be finicky at the best of times and the added layer of non-standard browsing was immediately painful. Other than that, it's been worthwhile; I recommend giving it another try!

Re: Lime and Bird are growing rapidly

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Post by 0xADEADBEE »

reacharavindh wrote: post #412
aantix wrote: post #284

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Isn't it exhausting to live like that? Will convenience ever win out for you? This is a serious question.

I do the same. No Uber, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Twitter on the phone. If I need them, I use their web interface. If that is shitty, it makes me use them less, which is a desired outcome. Although, I admit I read too much HN than I'd like to spend time everyday because it feels like time spent on HN is some form of learning.

I have a similar view - there's some very smart people here!

Re: Lime and Bird are growing rapidly

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

jobigoud wrote: post #481
ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #478

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>> Looking at something and saying "I don't think I would do that because it would be very embarrassing" is a thing adults can do. And its exactly a moment when one should stop for a second and ask him/herself a question "why would I feel so"? Wearing glasses, reading books, dyeing hair with some tint, preferring pieces of clothing of some fashion or other, riding a personal vehicle that is supposedly beneficial for…

Dyeing hair and choosing clothes are a matter of style preference, so why can't people think they don't like their style appearance on a scooter? I agree it's weird but clearly as we see for cars, choice of vehicle is also driven by style preferences. E.g most people wouldn't buy a pink car with green polka dots.

>>why can't people think they don't like their style appearance on a scooter

They certainly can. Calling something with a particular epithet means it bears this particular quality, which is not subjective. The opinion is, but the characterization is not.

Re: Lime and Bird are growing rapidly

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Post by scarejunba »

e40 wrote: post #464
scarejunba wrote: post #460

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So if you had the following reference points: crossing the road normally as you do (A), skydiving (B), BASE jumping (C) where we know that A < B < C (empirically), does this fall below A, above C, or between two of {A, B, C}, and if so, which two?

When I cross the road in a crosswalk, I'm in control. I step off the curb when it's clear. If I don't want the risk for skydiving, I won't do it. I won't, btw. Base jumping? No thanks. Walking 1+ hour/day on sidewalks: I've told you I've had 10+ close calls. There is nothing I can do to mitigate this risk. I see what you're trying to do, but you're coming off a little dickish.

I'm actually not Socratic-methoding this. I'm actually just curious where you estimate your risk at. I do things that some of my friends would consider dangerous (like skiing freestyle) but not things which some of my other friends consider safe (outdoor climbing, scuba diving). In this case, it's actually literally a calibration exercise.

More unsafe than walking. Is walking down the street with these vehicles around you less safe than running a marathon? Or around taking a road-trip across America? Or back-country camping?

Any meeting point here will do.

Re: Lime and Bird are growing rapidly

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Post by scelerat »

the_clarence wrote: post #388
scelerat wrote: post #105

In West Oakland I see many people using the Ford Bikes, but yet even more people using the Lime scooters. Kids, adults, techies, non-techies. I think they look kind of dorky, and some end up on the sidewalk and dumped in Lake Merritt. On the other hand, it appears that people are using these scooters a lot, possibly instead of driving. That seems like a positive outcome to me.

I don’t understand why people say that they look dorky. Didn’t you have this scooter trend like 20 years ago in the US? We sure had that in Europe.

The scooters were dorky then, too

Re: Lime and Bird are growing rapidly

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Post by e40 »

scarejunba wrote: post #486
e40 wrote: post #464

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When I cross the road in a crosswalk, I'm in control. I step off the curb when it's clear. If I don't want the risk for skydiving, I won't do it. I won't, btw. Base jumping? No thanks. Walking 1+ hour/day on sidewalks: I've told you I've had 10+ close calls. There is nothing I can do to mitigate this risk. I see what you're trying to do, but you're coming off a little dickish.

I'm actually not Socratic-methoding this. I'm actually just curious where you estimate your risk at. I do things that some of my friends would consider dangerous (like skiing freestyle) but not things which some of my other friends consider safe (outdoor climbing, scuba diving). In this case, it's actually literally a calibration exercise. More unsafe than walking. Is walking down the street with these vehicles aroun…

How about is walking down the street with these vehicles around me less safe than walking down the street with these vehicles on the street and not sidewalk?

My risk of harm while walking to/from work increased orders of magnitude, through no change in my own behavior.

I'm starting to feel like I'm being trolled, because I think you know exactly what I just said.

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