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Mark Zuckerberg testifies before Congress

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg testifies before Congress

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They need the website to add their code in order to track you. The website could just send the IPs as easily.

Just an IP is presumably not enough to fingerprint someone.

Still, the website could just share your user agent etc

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post #187

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>no one with a "D" after their name asking Zuckerberg a question today I can't even see where the goalposts have gone.

> Ted Cruz clearly showing that he's a partisan hack. Didn't give a crap about users' privacy or the issues at hand, he had to make it about 'liberal Silicon Valley' and 'conservative persecution'. What a joke. Couple of different "goal posts" here

Fair enough, although I'm entitled to interpret posts in the pure context of their parent.

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Well, you could also encrypt the data with a per-user key and throw that away when you delete the user. No the data was not deleted, but access to it is. There are ways to design data retention around deletable constraints like this. The bigger question is more like “do we trust facebook to agree with us on what deleting an account acually means?” For isntance, i’m curious if you delete your account whether they stil…

But what does it mean to "throw [the key] away"? Are you operating at scale? I hope you have a very robust backup system (including enough that you can even recover from something like the Sony hack), and so you're going to need to ensure that you delete it from those systems. And then, you're dealing with 100s (1000s? 10000s?) of these deletions a day. Do you want that to be instant? Are you really that confident in…

I don’t know about a general purpose system for this, but it’s generally easier to proactively delete or make inaccessible something in a singe data store. Encryption reduces the problem to a single element in a single data store. You’re not wrong, but it’s a problem worth solving for the ability to not have to solve the problem 1000 times over for each bit of user data.

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Yes, the hearing is a show. But... Yesterday, a major social network app in China (Neihan), with hundreds of millions of users get shut down perpetually by government orders. In the meantime, several major social products are removed from China mobile app stores.

Just feel lucky you still have a hearing.

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Far left very much engages in hate speech. Kill all white people etc etc. You can try to true scotsman that, but you can do the same for the far right.

So in the US right is white people and left is everyone else?

No? The hate speech by the left doesn’t have to be against the right. In fact I believe much of hate speech by the extreme left is targeted onto people who consider themselves on the left too; generally hate speech targets the vulnerable or at least the locally unpopular; no reason to think that skews left or right.

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Some poor Senator just went on a rabbit hunt to discuss FB's bug bounty program. Who are these Congressional staffers? Tech illiteracy is on full-display; we're not even talking 'power-users' (who were on UseNet, btw), these people are lost. Zuckerberg had to be gracious and say his team would follow-up on many things that it was clear the Senator didn't even understand. This is supposed to be our smart chamber.

The Senate is not supposed to be the "smart chamber" but the chamber that lessens the House's power to vote for the vagaries of the moment. This is also why the Senate but not the House confirms appointments and approves treaties.

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg testifies before Congress

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post #482

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ted Cruz clearly showing that he's a partisan hack. Didn't give a crap about users' privacy or the issues at hand, he had to make it about 'liberal Silicon Valley' and 'conservative persecution'. What a joke. Couple of different "goal posts" here

Fair enough, although I'm entitled to interpret posts in the pure context of their parent.

Feel like there's a few different things going on in your comment, but I'll focus on -- who are you blaming for "shifting the goalposts"? I believe I'm trying to return focus on the "pure context" of the grandparent; it seems disingenuous to argue I'm, at the very least, the only one shifting the goal posts.
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