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Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by kylnew »

Aloha wrote: post #219
kylnew wrote: post #112

Honestly, Marriott is a terrible chain with contempt for its own customers. Every time I use a Marriott (not always by choice) I’m insulted by the quality of food for the price they ask. I once got $10 ‘fresh squeezed OJ’ at breakfast before knowing the price and realizing they were pouring it from a Tropicana container. So when I hear this story I’m not even remotely surprised by Marriotts behavior. Upper management…

Was it a franchised property, or OandO, or was it just merely managed by Marriott?

Not certain but it’s been a repeat problem that I eventually realized Marriott having their name on it was the common denominator

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by black_puppydog »

MiguelHudnandez wrote: post #449
black_puppydog wrote: post #441

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No, I disagree. that may be a story, too, but it's not this story. This story is about horrible situation of workers' rights in the US. It's pretty much a house made problem.

It seems strange to me to think unfavorably about US workers’ rights, then about China in the same minute. About your point, if an international incident isn’t a legitimate reason to fire someone, I don’t know what is. And by extension, what kind of rights you are advocating. It might be more appropriate to take action against the system that let the error happen. But there are two ways to reduce errors. 1) improve t…

Really depends on if one thinks his being fired to be the appropriate response. If (like you seem to think) it is, then sure, there is no issue about workers' rights here.

If you tend to believe him that this was an honest mistake, or even just that there's sufficient doubt, then the conclusion would probably be that he shouldn't have been fired, and his having been fired becomes a question of "how could this happen". And to this the (my) answer is "insufficient workers' rights, allowing a company to take an easy way out at the cost of an individual".

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Post by shaftoe »

mercurial wrote: post #451
shaftoe wrote: post #432

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This is a bizarre take on a business relationship between two free entities. Is an employee allowed to quit? What about the "violence" it does to the company, investors, and fellow employees? Must they stick around to provide continuity? If so, how is this not indenture? Am I allowed to fire a painter I hire to paint my house if I think he does poor work? Do I need to document his performance and discuss an improveme…

> Is an employee allowed to quit? What about the "violence" it does to the company, investors, and fellow employees? Must they stick around to provide continuity? If so, how is this not indenture? Grotesque. Many industries in various countries have a reasonable notice period (say, 3 months), which should give the company enough time to adapt. Nobody considers this "indenture". > Employment represents a contract betw…

Three months is fascinating. That's a quarter of a year! We live in different worlds.

I've always found two weeks notice to be more than adequate in most cases and then, only as a courtesy to communicate, transfer in flight work, and alter schedules. If I'm truly mad, I'm resigning and dealing with picking up the slack is not my problem. If an employee tells me they're leaving, I want them gone soon anyway because mentally they've already left the team.

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Post by anonforthis323 »

paradite wrote: post #290

Chinese citizen here. A few points that I want to make after reading some comments: 1. I would be personally offended if anyone or any organization lists Tibet as a country. 2. Lots of Chinese people would be offended too by this. Reasons for 1 and 2: - It is a piece of wrong information - The wrong information directly contradicts what is considered basic knowledge in China - That basic knowledge happens to be on th…

It's ironic that you are being so severely downvoted in this thread just for stating an honest opinion.

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Post by anonforthis323 »

sdrothrock wrote: post #294
paradite wrote: post #290

Chinese citizen here. A few points that I want to make after reading some comments: 1. I would be personally offended if anyone or any organization lists Tibet as a country. 2. Lots of Chinese people would be offended too by this. Reasons for 1 and 2: - It is a piece of wrong information - The wrong information directly contradicts what is considered basic knowledge in China - That basic knowledge happens to be on th…

For an American perspective, I've thought about this a lot while talking to Chinese friends, and I wonder if the closest thing to this in American culture (while not being at all equivalent, just analogous) would be claiming that Puerto Rico is the 51st state. Factually, it is not. Emotionally, some people may want it to be and may very well have valid arguments for it. People across the US and Puerto Rico would have…

I think a more appropriate analogy would depend on how the person leans.

It would be like telling a conservative that they stole America from the Natives and should give reparations.

Or it would be like telling a liberal that it was the colonists that made America what it is today, so they don't owe the Natives anything.

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Post by anonforthis323 »

nasredin wrote: post #391
forapurpose wrote: post #355

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> it's seen as similar to the US/Hawaii situation I was wondering how someone would find a way, even in this discussion, to apply 'the U.S. does it too' comment. Personally, after reading HN for awhile I can hardly distinguish between the U.S. and China.

It's called "whataboutism".

What's the difference between "whataboutism" and perspective?

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Post by michaelmrose »

kenny87 wrote: post #440
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #378

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It wasn't Chinese culture that stopped them. It was Mao, the CCP, the tanks in Tienamen Square, and the more recently the ubiquitous propaganda and censorship (...) the brainwashers (...) In the last four decades, the poverty rate in China has fallen from over 90% to below 10%. http://iresearch.worldbank.org/PovcalNet/images/ChinaSpecial... Hundreds of millions of people have been lifted out of poverty, most people h…

well said, to the contrary, it appears we -- americans/europeans -- are the brainwashed ones. instead of finding common cause we our fellow human beings we all too easily follow our leadership's narrative that the people of China are our enemies.

We have plenty of common causes say fighting cancer. We can link arms, sing songs, fight cancer then go back to trying to dominate each other globally and establish our mutually incompatible values as the global norm. Playing this off as Americans being brain washed is just naive. They are literally our enemies unless you have conveniently forgotten Korea.

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Post by anonforthis323 »

ghostcluster wrote: post #227

And thus the Chinese Communist Party's cold authoritarian censorship extends overseas to strike at the job of a US citizen. It was just a few months ago that I wrote this here on HN: > I even feel a personal dampening on what I will say publicly about China on social media, just because of hypothetical tech/travel opportunities, and I don't even live there. Obviously, those fears were founded. Part of me is happy abo…

I wonder if the CCPs censorship department will one day be as powerful as the RIAA or MPAA?

What's scarier is that in this day and age, anything you say on social media can be a fireable offense. Wasn't there an American teacher that was fired this week because he dissed the military?

Or the numerous professors that are in trouble for complaining about BLM disrupting their class?

Re: Omaha man ‘liked’ a tweet, then lost his job

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Post by ptaipale »

__david__ wrote: post #148
snarfy wrote: post #140

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It should have been the guy that allowed all low level employees access to the official Marriott twitter account.

Or maybe not fire anyone and just ignore silly twitter temper tantrums.

I understand that this was not just a twitter tantrum, but a major disruption of business: inability to book online in China, in fact causing huge losses.
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