Forcing through #NetNeutrality overturn against popular will is an Act of War, Instead of calling Congress, Maybe try Calling @AjitPaiFCC's Wife Directly at her Medical Office to voice your concerns. 202.741.2770 - Given that Mr. Pai has not performed his civic duty of asking the community's Feedback.....It's seems Theoretically Prudent to me?
FCC plan would give Internet providers power to choose the sites customers see
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#482Earlier quoted context omitted.
So are you implying that the tech giants used in all the examples of why we should be saving this are the ones that don't actually even care, because this would help them stay giants and hurt new competition from rising to compete with them? ...If that's the case, I feel like the media should change their prospective in promoting awareness to fight for the companies that this is ACTUALLY going to effect more so then…
Those companies don't exist yet. What sounds better "If you don't save net neutrality, you will pay extra for Facebook!" or "Without net neutrality you might have to pay for a service that doesnt exist yet!"
How about something along the lines of “Without net neutrality the next Netflix, Google or Facebook won’t happen.”
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#483There would be no discussion about this if there were enough providers in the market, that would provide neutral access and market it as competitive advantage.
If net neutrality rules are thrown out, there should be more stimulus for small local ISPs - private or non-profit / municipal.
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#484Earlier quoted context omitted.
FCC instituted rules in 2008 abolishing the payola-style deals that stifle ISP competition in apartment buildings [0], but in the biggest surprise ever , the apartment owners and would-be-monopolist ISPs have been avoiding compliance by hiding the exclusivity part of their contracts. The apartment owner simply leaves open the prospect that another ISP could install access, but never actually allows them to do so. Or…
Getting a lawyer and suing the owner is not a reasonable thing to ask of people living in apartments.
No, it isn't, but nor is it reasonable for an apartment owner to establish service monopolies on their property at the expense of their renters.
What alternative would you suggest?
Re: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to choose the sites customers see
#485Forcing through #NetNeutrality overturn against popular will is an Act of War, Instead of calling Congress, Maybe try Calling @AjitPaiFCC's Wife Directly at her Medical Office to voice your concerns. 202.741.2770 - Given that Mr. Pai has not performed his civic duty of asking the community's Feedback.....It's seems Theoretically Prudent to me?
Don't do that.
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#486The scary thing will be when internet providers use the same tactics as free to play click games where they will ramp up your speed to a certain site if you pay extra for a temporary speed boost. These sort of pay per view tactics and extortion over something that we all take for granted now is what I'm afraid of. If not outright blocking of traffic for certain protocols such as bit-torrent or VPN access. Not that this is simple from a network management standpoint but with no restrictions in place one can only imagine the sort of devious tactics ISPs will use to extract extra revenue from their vassals.
Re: FCC plan would give Internet providers power to choose the sites customers see
#487There would be no discussion about this if there were enough providers in the market, that would provide neutral access and market it as competitive advantage. If net neutrality rules are thrown out, there should be more stimulus for small local ISPs - private or non-profit / municipal.
> If net neutrality rules are thrown out, there should be more stimulus for small local ISPs - private or non-profit / municipal.
If government bends to the telco desire on this, it's not going turn around and go against them by sponsoring competition for them.
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#488Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a perfect example of the ridiculous lengths this idea would have to go to sound feasible. Hence why I believe it's so detached from reality.
ISPs have already selectively blocked particular firms (until agreeing to stop in response TO FCC enforcement action), so why (freed from the threat of enforcement) wouldn't they do that but also offer the firm a way to buy their way out of it?
You're changing the subject, that's not what you said above... you're taking a minor specific throttling and applying it to a large public company crippling the ISP competition of another large ISP company.
Yes, some monopolistic ISPs have engaged in specific minor throttling. What they haven't done is alienated their entire customer base by throttling the entire internet into packages. Which is an entirely different beast... and what we're talking about.
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#489Is it time to go full decentralized peer-to-peer wireless mesh yet? I know it would be slow, but that's par for the course in most of the US anyway. Routing would be painful, but something like IPFS would encourage peers to cache content in order to ensure faster access to the content they want. It could be done if only the barrier to entry for normal folks was lower. I'm thinking a dedicated piece of hardware in a f…
Someone posted an Ask HN the other day asking "What tech were you convinced would take the world by storm but didn't?" Mesh networking was mine. I really really wish this would happen.
I have hopes this will happen with machine-to-machine payment systems. Add fog computing and you might get decent speeds with no centralized backbone.
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#490Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's unlikely popular and profitable services will be hindered by the lack of net neutrality. Huh? Did you forget already that both Verizon and Comcast throttled services like Netflix? They both argued they should get a cut if they were going to carry the traffic to their customers. Now they're getting exactly what they wanted. 1. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/veriz... 2. https://consumeris…
Except Netflix doesn't care about net neutrality anymore - Reed Hastings claims they are now big and popular enough for it not to matter for them: https://www.cnet.com/news/net-neutrality-netflix-reed-hastin...
> Except Netflix doesn't care about net neutrality anymore
Yes, they do: