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1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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> he was on the same list, despite being a super rich fat white guy from Microsoft. What could the "fat" part of that possibly have to do with anything related to targeting, other than as a cheap excuse for you to denigrate Myhrvold?

Thank you for this.

Probably means he looked more "safe" and "complacent" and that didn't stop them.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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> If you[, a citizen of the United States,] ever get asked that question at the US border, please don't acquiesce to that request. Absolutely agreed. I will do this[0]. I'm a U.S. citizen with the unequivocal right to enter the country once my citizenship has been established. U.S. citizens are the only ones who can stand up to this madness--either at the border or by influencing and electing people who can change th…

I have been that guy. All of 2009-2013 or so. After being locked in secondary with no comms, food, or water for hours on hours enough times, one gives up. CBP once kicked me out of a border control point in northern Vermont, in a snowstorm, in February. I had to hitchhike simply to not freeze (my sim didn't work, so no way to call a cab, and they had sent the bus on without me, hours earlier). I've been searched, bot…

Thank you for sharing your experiences.

For future, for the rest of us, I'm wondering what civil disobedience would look like. Something akin to malicious compliance, work to rule, or...? Actions (or inactions) that we can take to make the whole process infeasible.

For example... Whenever a telemarketer cold calls me, I try to take up as much of their time as possible. Increase their costs, reduce their conversion rate.

I also try to lie as much as possible for forms, surveys, etc. Muddy the data. Increase their costs.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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That's the part I didn't get thought. If there is no way to tell then how exactly do you turn it off? (At some point, you want to turn it off after all) If there is any kind of setting that lets you control travel mode, border control could just make it standard procedure to change that setting.

In the article, the author mentions that you enable/disable travel mode online. Sadly, it doesn't look like this applies to those of us who have 1Password without a monthly subscription.

So, if they're already in the business of demanding your passwords (otherwise this whole thing is irrelevant), why don't they just ask you to log into your 1Password account and see if you're in travel mode there?

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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"May I search your laptop?" "Certainly." "But... this is practically empty." "Yes sir. I FedEx'd my SSD to the destination." I have a small SSD in the primary disk in my T420s, it has just enough to get me through the flight. I keep the primary in the UltraBay with a simple adapter, takes one reboot and no tools to put it back in place. Done. Happy searching! I can't log into anything even if I wanted to because I ph…

"Why did you FedEx your SSD to the destination? Do you have something to hide? You're gonna have to follow us."

That's now.

The future is simply interdiction of every device.

Actually, every device will just be bugged with a thousand backdoors. The end.

Cory Doctorow - general computing is the enemy of governments.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Answer no, and it's just as valid as if you had a hand-written notebook full of work-related records that you left in your office back home before traveling. There aren't any reasonable justifications for requiring you to bring all information you physically have access to you with you when traveling, regardless of the format it's stored in. Not bringing something with you is inherently different from hiding it.

It's not really the same thing at all. Something you leave in your office is something you won't have access to at your destination - so it's logical that it wouldn't be subject to customs. Something online, regardless of physical storage location, is something you will have access to at your destination, so it should be subject to customs.

So if you travel without your phone, they still have the right to demand access to your email account? How does that make any sense?

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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I've come to the conclusion that this is the only reasonable technical solution. Don't travel with sensitive data, and openly explain that you don't do so. The frustrating part is the UX, and the fuss when you land. I've found that this works: - Burner android (burner account explicitly for travel) for music, podcasts, light browsing, etc. - Cheap ThinkPad for headscratching / hacking (work over SSH, keys on a Yubike…

Any recommendations for a "burner android" phone?

I'd just go on Amazon and find some cheapo phone like the BLU R1 HD. Just find one that is compatible with your provider.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Answer no, and it's just as valid as if you had a hand-written notebook full of work-related records that you left in your office back home before traveling. There aren't any reasonable justifications for requiring you to bring all information you physically have access to you with you when traveling, regardless of the format it's stored in. Not bringing something with you is inherently different from hiding it.

> Not bringing something with you is inherently different from hiding it. But you don't have access to your notebook once in the country. The 1Password travel mode is not for while you're in the country, but specifically just for the border crossing.

Travel mode, especially on a Team plan though, is essentially asking one of your co-workers to scan and e-mail the notebook to you after having crossed the border.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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"May I search your laptop?" "Certainly." "But... this is practically empty." "Yes sir. I FedEx'd my SSD to the destination." I have a small SSD in the primary disk in my T420s, it has just enough to get me through the flight. I keep the primary in the UltraBay with a simple adapter, takes one reboot and no tools to put it back in place. Done. Happy searching! I can't log into anything even if I wanted to because I ph…

> "May I search your laptop?" "Certainly." "But... this is practically empty." "Yes sir. I FedEx'd my SSD to the destination."

Scratch that last bit. There is no need to reveal that, and it could sound suspicious (like you are trying to hide something specific by circumventing their checks, and trying to look clever (and/or make them look dim) by doing so to boot).

Just be honest without giving extra information: "yes sir, this is a travel machine and it just contains what I'm going to need while I'm between locations" if they ask why you would do that then "in case the laptop gets stolen, the less that is on it the less of a worry that could be" strikes me as a perfectly valid reason to be careful. Or perhaps "all the other data and programs I'm going to need are already with the clients/suppliers/other I'm visiting" (which it is as you've posted it, but you don't have to say the thing that might unnecessarily raise suspicion).

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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post #483

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In the article, the author mentions that you enable/disable travel mode online. Sadly, it doesn't look like this applies to those of us who have 1Password without a monthly subscription.

So, if they're already in the business of demanding your passwords (otherwise this whole thing is irrelevant), why don't they just ask you to log into your 1Password account and see if you're in travel mode there?

They could, which is why I'd recommend not having your 1Password password with you. Disable travel mode once you return home.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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There is no sign in the app that you are in Travel Mode. I suppose if you are well and truly targeted and they have a really knowledgeable specialist on-hand, they could know that Travel Mode exists and ask you to disable it. But, I think that's going beyond the boundaries of a border search, which is limited to searching things that you are actually carrying across the border.

"Are you using travel mode?" "No" You just lied to someone at border control. Which is an offense.

"Are you using travel mode?"

"Yes"

"Disable it"

"I can't. I left my password at home, and the account is tied to an email address I do not have access to."

I suppose they tell you to go home at that point. Such a sad state of affairs.

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