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Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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I don't understand how they can live on those prices. I have their 3 euro arm server and have no problem pushing more than a 100 megabit a second from it.

It's two fold. Amazon bandwidth is, I assume, premium tier 1. Where as ovh and scaleway are probably lower tier. Lower tier bandwidth is dirt cheap, like below $0.25 per mbps. Edit: 3 things, it's also shared among a lot of users that don't use what they can. For everyone using 100mbps there's probably 20 who use less then 1mbps.

Right. We have a 3EUR a month VPS serving as a backup server, it is a MySQL slave, doing a snapshot regularly and sending the snapshot off to a storage VPS. It certainly doesn't use 1mbps except when it rsyncs to the storage.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Very smart move from Amazon. The main advantage of Amazon LightSail over DigitalOcean are: built-in firewall (instead of messing with iptables), managed database with AWS RDS, and using S3 with a low latency and no networking cost.

DigitalOcean must implement a centralized firewall. This is the missing piece for them.

The best way to thing about security groups is that they are switch based firewall rules.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Just to be clear: This service is offered by Amazon/AWS themselves, it isn't a third party. That's a question I had when I first clicked, which is why I am answering it here. One big "gotcha" for AWS newbies which I cannot tell if this addresses: Does this set or allow the user to set a cost ceiling? AWS have offered billing alerts since forever. They'll also occasionally refund unexpected expenses (one time thing).…

Cloudwatch alarms can stop running EC2 instances. We do this to prevent accidentally leaving expensive instances running. If that helps a little.

Afaik the data is delayed and the damage might already be done by the time the alarm fires

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Took a look, their terms of service are awful. Here's a few: 3,1,2 - P.O. Boxes and non-residential or mail forwarding addresses are not accepted. 3,3,1 - Clients may not open multiple personal accounts under any circumstance. 3,3,2 - Clients may not give other persons access to their accounts.

Looks like pretty standard anti-fraud stuff.

Any personal account I have, at a minimum, I give access to my SO.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Let me get this straight, right now AWS is billing me $270/mo for 3TB of bandwidth on my autoscaling web servers. With LightSail, I can get that same bandwidth, plus storage and instances for $15/mo? In total, I'm spending about $15,000/yr on AWS, and someone spending $5/mo gets their bandwidth 18x cheaper than me? Shouldn't it be the other way around, and I should be the one with the discount? I get enough headaches…

From https://amazonlightsail.com/docs/ > Data transfer OUT from a Lightsail instance to another Lightsail instance or AWS resource is also free while the private IP address of the instance is used. It could even be worth it to set Lightsail up as reverse proxy and profit off of very cheap(for AWS) traffic e.g. for S3. I can't really believe they would allow this. Am I missing something?

EC2 to S3 is already free. That's not true for all AWS services though. Also interzone bandwidth is charged at 0.01 leaving AND entering, making it the same as inter-region bandwidth costs. If lightsail is truly free for that it's a game changer.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Just to be clear: This service is offered by Amazon/AWS themselves, it isn't a third party. That's a question I had when I first clicked, which is why I am answering it here. One big "gotcha" for AWS newbies which I cannot tell if this addresses: Does this set or allow the user to set a cost ceiling? AWS have offered billing alerts since forever. They'll also occasionally refund unexpected expenses (one time thing).…

"Why even offer a service like this if you cannot GUARANTEE that the $5 they say they charge is all you'll ever get charged?"

Exactly! We have used AWS and DO a lot this past year. DO is great for smaller sites/api's and super easy to use. Their support is also outstanding.

AWS has tons of tools but many come at a cost. We are in the process of moving a couple of sites off of AWS and onto a LiquidWeb dedicated box. We will be paying much less and the LW dedicated server is more than enough for what we need.

AWS is great for spinning up and scaling instances quickly and comes with a ton of other tools. At the end of the day however it is not always the most cost effective or even best offering for most sites/apps.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Just to be clear: This service is offered by Amazon/AWS themselves, it isn't a third party. That's a question I had when I first clicked, which is why I am answering it here. One big "gotcha" for AWS newbies which I cannot tell if this addresses: Does this set or allow the user to set a cost ceiling? AWS have offered billing alerts since forever. They'll also occasionally refund unexpected expenses (one time thing).…

The AWS cost structure is one reasons we switched to a different provider. I feel Amazon has taken metered pricing too far with AWS, especially when the prices aren't really that low. Everything seems to cost extra with AWS, and it's quite hard to estimate beforehand how much a thing will actually cost in practice.

It's so confusing that I switched to DO. Not that DO is cheaper but it's pricing is way simpler.
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