agreed 100%. from the trash icon that doesn't change label to eject anymore when dragging a volume to the scroll bars that cover text on top of the safari timeline debugger, there are plenty little paper cuts to be found where eyes don't scour often.
Apple’s declining software quality
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Re: Apple’s declining software quality
#482Earlier quoted context omitted.
What mature products deteriorated (apart from iTunes) and in what concrete ways? Mail is much better than it was even a year ago, XCode too, the OS is stable... And FCPX didn't deteriorate over 7 -- it was a written-from-scratch reboot of the platform that just happened to cut some features people used (most got back with a vengeance).
There a number of examples in the surrounding threads. I find most software getting worse these days on all platforms. See CADT: https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
And most of that is simply looking at the past with rose tinted glasses.
Re: Apple’s declining software quality
#483Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have the money to buy more resources and a lot of those tasks can be done in parallel.
There's this really great book you should read about myths and man-months
That's true but only if there's only one team working on software at Apple. There's no reason to assume that the iTunes team needs to be the Photos team; while there might be certain dependencies on something like iCloud or OS X, the areas everyone complains about tend to be clearly contained within a single app and there are well-practiced ways to deal with things like API changes.
Re: Apple’s declining software quality
#484Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Microsoft finally got a handle on security & software quality just as the world ceased to care about them. Not quite. They got a handle on security when Linux list a fire under their ass. Competition, true honest to market competition, spurs improvement. The thing about Apple is that they may have competition on hardware, but they have no competition on Software. If you buy a Mac or a iPhone, you have already throw…
> They got a handle on security when Linux list a fire under their ass. I have my doubts that all 0.02% or whatever of PC users who are dedicated to using Linux as their desktop OS influenced Microsoft to do anything but if you have data to show otherwise I'd be interested in it.
I don't know about Linux influencing Microsoft on the desktop, but surely it has lit it up on the server. You are 100% trolling by claiming 0.02% of PC folks use Linux. It is at least two orders of magnitude higher than that, and then android... :)
Re: Apple’s declining software quality
#485Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Microsoft finally got a handle on security & software quality just as the world ceased to care about them. Not quite. They got a handle on security when Linux list a fire under their ass. Competition, true honest to market competition, spurs improvement. The thing about Apple is that they may have competition on hardware, but they have no competition on Software. If you buy a Mac or a iPhone, you have already throw…
> They got a handle on security when Linux list a fire under their ass. I have my doubts that all 0.02% or whatever of PC users who are dedicated to using Linux as their desktop OS influenced Microsoft to do anything but if you have data to show otherwise I'd be interested in it.
"if you have data to show otherwise I'd be interested in it." ...
Some data says Linux desktop/laptop share is 1.5% (not counting chromebooks)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...
Please note also that Android is Linux and iOS is Darwin BSD unix.
Linux and Unix based kernels are more numerous than Windows based units.
Re: Apple’s declining software quality
#486Earlier quoted context omitted.
They should probably consider using that "static driver verifier" because Surface Pro 4 is crashy as hell.
Yeah, but that's because Skylake is buggy as hell. It's a bit of a bummer. MS cannot publicly blame Intel for the raft of skylake bugs, but it's first gen hardware, first gen software, and first-gen firmware. For what it's worth, my Surface Book (obviously a product they care a lot about) has basically gotten to a crash rate equal to my mac, which is maybe 1 actual problem every 2 weeks). I suspect the Surface 4 Pro…
You should take your Mac to the store and have them take a look. Or at least run hardware diagnostics. I've been using Macs for well over a decade and in that time I have maybe seen 4-5 crashes total, across multiple laptops and desktops. A crash every two weeks is not a normal situation in OS X.
Re: Apple’s declining software quality
#487There's just no way in hell Steve Jobs would be putting up with this and I wish he was alive to tear some people a new one. I didn't like Jobs but respect his ability to achieve things. Perhaps, the years of oversimplifying applications has created an Apple that can't handle complex applications? Or, there's a chicken and egg question: XCode and the surrounding tools are atrociously buggy and hostile to the developer…
> There's just no way in hell Steve Jobs would be putting up with this and I wish he was alive to tear some people a new one. Steve Jobs, Steve Jobs ... that's the guy with the skeuomorphic preferences, right? The one who, at the first iPhone release, told developers that they don't need native apps because using HTML + WebView is enough, right? Just to make sure we're on the same page here.
"The one who, at the first iPhone release, told developers that they don't need native apps because using HTML + WebView is enough, right?"
Nowadays we have plenty of people complaining that they have to have "apps" for everything when they have a perfectly good web browser on their phone, so he wasn't that far off.
Re: Apple’s declining software quality
#488This has to be a management problem. Apple has total control over the hardware, total control over third party developers, and $203 billion in cash. What are they doing wrong? Apple has the resources to approach software like aerospace. Formal interface specs, heavy Q/A, tough regression tests, formal methods. It's expensive, but Apple ships so many copies that the cost per unit is insignificant. Microsoft did that,…
Nah, I think it's a perception problem. As someone whose starry-eyed Mac obsession predated Windows 95 - Apple's software has always been buggy. It was buggy under Sculley, it was buggy under Amelio, and it was buggy under Jobs. I remember getting plenty of sad Macs under System 6 and 7, and early versions of OS X weren't any better. We just didn't care because Steve Jobs was really good at distracting us with promis…
> I remember getting plenty of sad Macs under System 6 and 7
When System 7,8 crashed, it crashed hard. Complete system lockup. And it crashed rather often. No recoverable... progressive crash like Windows.
Re: Apple’s declining software quality
#489Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but that's because Skylake is buggy as hell. It's a bit of a bummer. MS cannot publicly blame Intel for the raft of skylake bugs, but it's first gen hardware, first gen software, and first-gen firmware. For what it's worth, my Surface Book (obviously a product they care a lot about) has basically gotten to a crash rate equal to my mac, which is maybe 1 actual problem every 2 weeks). I suspect the Surface 4 Pro…
If Microsoft was serious about enhancing the real and perceived quality of the brand they are establishing with the Surface Pro line (which seems to be very nice based on the my mother's earlier generation model), they should have tested Skylake, and it in the Surface Pro 4 prototypes, detected the problem, and delayed the launch. Intel's problem became their's when they shipped it in their hardware.
Yep. That's likely why there are no Skylake MacBook yet.
Re: Apple’s declining software quality
#490I remember the time OS X didn't even have to restart for an update. Gone are those days.
I don't, and I've been using it since the Public Beta.
Every update needs a restart. How does your mac update without a restart, the latter updates require an installation where OS X isn't running.