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Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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Due to pricing insanity (not that Apple prices weren’t insane before the ram/ssd shortages) I’m not in the market but I do wonder if my next computer should be a Mac Studio instead of a MBP that lives its life docked. Might be better to just run a Studio and Neo for the very few times I actually need remote capabilities.

If all you want to do is remote into your desktop, Neo seems like overkill. Why not just get a $200 Chromebook and save yourself $500?

Also remoting into a Mac sucks on anything that isn't a Mac. It runs like shit when using any VNC client that isn't Apple's.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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> Not exactly "future proof" Computers are never "future proof".

I’d say something like a PS4 is future proof. $350 got like 10 years of modern software.

Nobody calls a PS4 a computer. We all know it is internally with the hardware, but the whole package makes it not a computer.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

#473

Due to pricing insanity (not that Apple prices weren’t insane before the ram/ssd shortages) I’m not in the market but I do wonder if my next computer should be a Mac Studio instead of a MBP that lives its life docked. Might be better to just run a Studio and Neo for the very few times I actually need remote capabilities.

I wonder if apple could or would offer a subscription for a OSX VM that you could remote into? That plus a neo would be an excellent combo for me

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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post #118

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It's more bizarre that Apple got caught with pants down. Focused on CPUs and ignored RAM. Seems like miscalculation. If they had their own fab for RAM, they could completely corner the market today.

They have no fab for CPUs, they are manufactured by Samsung and TSMC. The bottleneck is in manufacturing RAM not CPUs so there is nothing Apple can do here.

Apple has a fab for CPU R&D. It's not for final production though.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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post #403

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Out of curiosity, what do you do to distribute the weights and inference across the multiple machines?

Thunderbolt 5, and software

at a 100k$ you're not buying apple products to be limited by the 120gb/s thunderbolt port.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

#477

Due to pricing insanity (not that Apple prices weren’t insane before the ram/ssd shortages) I’m not in the market but I do wonder if my next computer should be a Mac Studio instead of a MBP that lives its life docked. Might be better to just run a Studio and Neo for the very few times I actually need remote capabilities.

I can't really imagine buying a new computer in this market. But I also wonder how long it will be before prices drop again, if ever.

Oh you will be imagining some time soon.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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Sorry for being lazy, but is there a rough breakdown like "You get sonnet level for M5 and Opus for M5 pro, etc.", or is it still speculative. Or put simpler, do you get Opus level for the 256GB M5 Max?

With the newest Qwen 3.8 27B model you can get opus on just about any new Mac.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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post #12

10 grand for 256GB memory. Likely double that for 512GB, but won't be available or finalized until October. Thunderbolt 5 is highest bandwidth external IO available at 120Gb/s. 1.2TB/s claimed max internal memory bandwidth. Not exactly "future proof" for >1T parameter models but good for targeting specific lower-parameter models, or if you can rely on pipeline parallelism and run a cluster.

> Not exactly "future proof" Computers are never "future proof".

>Computers are never "future proof". Till now.

My thinkpad t14g1 with 16gb ram somehow still relevant today.

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