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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#471
“Stop being so intransigent” / “I will NEVER buy a car that doesn’t support CarPlay” is pretty funny.

That said, I agree with the author. Autos are not software companies and they are only locking us in for their own benefit. Anybody not supporting other common standards is probably not telling the whole truth about the reasoning.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#472

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Your use case sounds like exactly the opposite of what I’d prefer. And, I personally find the quality of YouTube Music Premium (256kbps AAC) superior to FM radio.

> And, I personally find the quality of YouTube Music Premium (256kbps AAC) superior to FM radio. When it comes to playing music from phones in cars, connection type seems to matter more than the source, and iOS has some weird built-in sound normalization only for CarPlay that drives me crazy. In my Audi A3 (2018), if I connect my iPhone 12 Mini via AUX or Bluetooth, sounds works perfectly fine. Same when playing via…

Maybe it’s trying to split the output into more than two audio channels when in CarPlay mode? If it were only Apple Music doing this I’d be sure this was triggering its Atmos output, not sure how it’d be affecting other players, but maybe.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#473

Am I the only person who hates plugging their iPhone into their car to charge and completely losing control of it? When I plug it into the USB socket, my Peugeot 207 starts playing a random podcast track on my phone. No way of stopping it. If I stop it, it starts again. I can't select a different audio output, e.g. the phone speaker. There are plenty of people complaining about this on the forums. Yes, it's a bug in…

Your car is broken, and was apparently sold as such. I'd return the car for that, or just never buy it in the first place if I noticed it during research or a test drive.

It's a quite old, third-hand car. But there are plenty of people reporting the same thing.

But why can't my iPhone let me set permissions for the thing I plug it into? It's unreasonable to prevent me from changing the audio output.

Examples:

- https://www.peugeotforums.com/threads/mp3-ipod-random-play-p...

- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254051162?sortBy=rank

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#475
> that’s not the way we see ourselves interacting with our users

You lost me right there Rivian. Start picturing yourselves worrying more about how your users picture themselves interacting with THEIR car... and stop worrying about controlling interactions between you and your users. Switch your frame of thinking around.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#476

For pure interaction, CarPlay as a generic solution is very hard to beat infotainment systems that are deeply integrated with the vehicle itself. Its advantages are mainly these: - Consistency. You get into a new car, all you need to figure out is how to open CarPlay, no need to learning a completely different and often complicated infotainment system. - "It's on your phone". You can decide what playlist to play or w…

I can get the same thing with an aux cable

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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To voice an alternative that isn't touched much in this discussion: > - "It's on your phone" Straight use your phone. There is no need for the car to adapt, no updates, no back deal by the car manufacturer, nothing is tied to the car except Bluetooth. Current screens are IMHO big enough, moving to a tablet or foldables is also an option Mounting/unmounting is a solved problem since magsafe (or Peak Design like strong…

CarPlay enables a car-friendly interface with big buttons, shortcuts to navigation/music/communication, and minimal distractions. I don’t know of any way to get that on the phone’s own display.

Can't speak for Carplay, but Android Auto does try to distract me with attempts of engagement like "Is the construction site still there?" and other shit. The car's (an Audi) system does not, but it fails on many other levels. Both make me angry, albeit for different reasons.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#478
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I agree with the author: CarPlay is table stakes for me. Whenever an automaker says a car won't support CarPlay, I mentally cross it off my list. Which is fine, because there are plenty of other viable options.

We bought a Honda Prologue last year and didn’t even test drive the built-on-the-same-platform GM cars (e.g. the almost-identical Chevy Blazer EV) because they didn’t have CarPlay.

People like us have got to be affecting GM’s sales by some measurable amount, right?

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#479

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Your car is broken, and was apparently sold as such. I'd return the car for that, or just never buy it in the first place if I noticed it during research or a test drive.

It's a quite old, third-hand car. But there are plenty of people reporting the same thing. But why can't my iPhone let me set permissions for the thing I plug it into? It's unreasonable to prevent me from changing the audio output. Examples: - https://www.peugeotforums.com/threads/mp3-ipod-random-play-p... - https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254051162?sortBy=rank

> It's a quite old, third-hand car. But there are plenty of people reporting the same thing.

Presumably it's been a problem since day 1. Meaning it was broken on day 1.

> But why can't my iPhone let me set permissions for the thing I plug it into?

There's the 'trust this device?' popup that should prevent the problem if you don't want the car to do anything with your device. If you want finder control, then from Apple's point of view, it's probably that this would needlessly clutter the UI, given that it shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Then again, I don't think Android supports finer controls either way.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#480

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The big thing for me is that the lifetime of a car is a lot longer than the technology development lifecycle. I just bought a 10 year old Toyota estate (station wagon). It's got a reasonable screen and Bluetooth implementation etc. But I'm never going to want to use the built in navigation because it's just not as good as what my phone will do. And the audio integration isn't as sophisticated as it might be - I have…

I’m sure the car manufacturers would much prefer if you updated your car as often as you do your phone.

They want everyone to, but they also know that the cost of cars, it's not realistic for that to happen. The only way even people on the upper middle class can afford to be buying or leasing cars every three years is because at the end of those three years the car still has a lot of value left to sell on to someone who is more middle class. And that middle class person will likely sell it again to someone who is a little bit lower down and at about 10 to 12 years it finally reaches someone who is poor.

The only way someone could buy a car more often is if they became a lot cheaper. That would mean doing away with a lot of the luxury parts of the car that are where the profit is.

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