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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by microgpt »

eudamoniac wrote: post #287
microgpt wrote: post #252

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It is a sensible combination to me. If you first believe that the government should provide a bunch of free stuff, but it doesn't at the moment because it's too expensive, it kind of makes sense that you would then think there need to be fewer people getting the free stuff so it remains affordable. The first people on the exclusion list would naturally be noncitizens.

You can exclude people you don't like from free healthcare without physically removing them from the country.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by myrmidon »

miyoji wrote: post #415
kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

> It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. No, in fact, the opposite of this is obvious.

An honest question: Would you like to live in a world where company/employer exerts more control over the views that are publicly expressed?

Do you actually want voting to happen via wallet?

This whole view kinda confounds me. I don't see how you can honestly profess to be on the tolerant/right side, morally, while trying to boycott someones business over his political views. Would you have preferred early feminists or LGBT advocates to be hounded in their professional life? Would it have been better for more people to do that?

If you want to vote for or against Örebropartiet, then just do it at the booth.

Plenty of people here basically seem to indirectly advocate for company based censorship and some kind of budget-plutocracy, and no matter how "morally correct" your views are, that is under no circumstances a worthwhile endeavor.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by [deleted] »

dijit wrote: post #465
miyoji wrote: post #415

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> It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. No, in fact, the opposite of this is obvious.

Is IKEA fascist? Because the founder was a Nazi supporter; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingvar_Kamprad I'm not saying this to dunk on IKEA, but sometimes even when there's a sole founder, the mission of the company and the mission of the person who founded it do not necessarily align. EDIT: It also seems that the party is extremely left leaning but is anti-immigration, as a person who lives in Swedens third largest…

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Post by [deleted] »

yreg wrote: post #419
drbscl wrote: post #310

Wikipedia of the party in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party# Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. Nationalist, sure. I'm not Swedish though, so I would be interested in the thoughts of those who are actually affected by Örebropartiet's policies.

>Doesn't really sound all that far-right to me. To me too, then I got to the leaders quote on TV: "We must deport these damn parasites who sit and live at our expense." Yeah, okay. I know some politicians who speak like that, I feel I get the picture.

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Post by crossroadsguy »

kfreds wrote: post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

People in this thread are slowly (or maybe not so slowly) realising "… this was also a business after all… just with a different "model"… huh". There's caring, there's caring PR, and then there's caring theatre.

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Post by dgellow »

daneel_w wrote: post #318
thepaulmcbride wrote: post #314

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There are literally dozens of us that either live outside the US or are from other countries

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There are other VPN providers, I can still use the tech, but I will for sure not give my money to a company whose owners support racist policies

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Post by MichaelDickens »

myrmidon wrote: post #472
miyoji wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. No, in fact, the opposite of this is obvious.

An honest question: Would you like to live in a world where company/employer exerts more control over the views that are publicly expressed? Do you actually want voting to happen via wallet? This whole view kinda confounds me. I don't see how you can honestly profess to be on the tolerant/right side, morally, while trying to boycott someones business over his political views. Would you have preferred early feminists…

> An honest question: Would you like to live in a world where company/employer exerts more control over the views that are publicly expressed?

I don't really object to you asking this question, but I do object to you calling a rhetorical question "an honest question".

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Post by devindotcom »

dijit wrote: post #465
miyoji wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. No, in fact, the opposite of this is obvious.

Is IKEA fascist? Because the founder was a Nazi supporter; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingvar_Kamprad I'm not saying this to dunk on IKEA, but sometimes even when there's a sole founder, the mission of the company and the mission of the person who founded it do not necessarily align. EDIT: It also seems that the party is extremely left leaning but is anti-immigration, as a person who lives in Swedens third largest…

Is IKEA's founder alive and currently donating lots of money to a political party advocating for mass deportation of "parasites"? If so let me know and I will stop buying IKEA furniture!

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Post by lancebeet »

pesus wrote: post #384
rglover wrote: post #381

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It's not a "witch hunt" to be against ethnic cleansing and not want to financially support that.

I've never really gotten the impression that Allard or the Örebro party support ethnic cleansing. What makes you say this? I'm not sure if any of their suggested policies would even be considered that controversial outside of Sweden.

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Post by bluescrn »

flohofwoe wrote: post #214
catheter wrote: post #193

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It doesn't seem that complicated to be honest with you. That is how they self identify but none of their policies seem particularly left wing. At least not from that Wikipedia page. Extremely left wing dental care is the best I will give them.

> Extremely left wing dental care is the best I will give them. Free dental care is considered "extemely left wing" now? That's just bizarre tbh. If a country would decide to use tax money to provide health care services for free to everybody that's not much different than using tax money to maintain an infrastructure network that's free to use (like roads), or free police and firefighting services - and I think none…

> Free dental care is considered "extemely left wing" now? That's just bizarre tbh.

No more bizarre than the idea of free speech being ceded to the right.

Apparently even air conditioning is now a left vs right culture war issue...

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