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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

Any issues with banking insurance or healthcare applications?

Chase bank app wont even load on my GrapheneOS lol

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Makes me sad, because I can't make the jump until I know my banking and related essential apps will work.

I refuse to ever use a banking app on my phone, so I don't even know if my bank's app would work. But every other app I've tried to use works just fine on GraphineOS.

If you've confirmed your banking app won't work on GOS, have you considered accessing your bank's website through your phone's browser instead?

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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It still boggles my mind that the most popular privacy OS requires Google manufactured hardware, that fact alone makes me not trust it at all.

They list their exact criteria for supporting a device. So far, only Pixels fit all of them (and I guess the Motorolas will soon) https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

> So far, only Pixels fit all of them

might as well list all features of pixel phones

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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~Happy iPhone user for almost 20 (!) years. This has got me seriously thinking about picking up a Pixel.

I feel like you'd be taking on a lot of pain for no real benefits though?

real benefits: being able to install free software

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Yes, you install the Google Play store via the GrapheneOS App Store. The OS comes with like 5 apps out of the box. The rest is up to you. Biggest caveats that I've encountered: tap to pay via Google Wallet is a no go, Android Auto can be flaky, MDM managed work profiles don't work at the moment, and some apps that use the Google Play integrity API fail to validate and refuse to work (I've only encountered one app tha…

Tap to pay is mostly NFC? So is there an alternative app?

Garmin Pay, Samsung pay if you have a compatible bank and card, PayPal in Germany and sometimes banks' own systems.

I had a very weird (bad) experience with Curve support so I couldn't recommend it.

NFC payments work, it's only Google who claims a phone not patched for 8 years is safe and secure, but phone with working hardware attestation and patched 6 months ahead of everyone else is insecure.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Eye opener. Thanks for the warning! GrapheneOS sandboxes all apps including GSF as far as I understand. It would be nice if full capabilities could be exposed or at least shown in the app settings. There is the "All permissions" view which has a "have full network access" item with the following details: `Allows the app to create network sockets and use custom network protocols. The browser and other applications pro…

Every Android app can do IPC with Android apps in the same profile. So an app without Network Access could cooperate with an app with Network Access to communicate with the outside world. Of course, most notably, a lot of apps communicate with Play Services and people generally leave on network access for Play Services to avoid breaking to much stuff. There has been talk of developing 'IPC scopes', similar to how the…

IPC scopes would be a great solution!

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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> it was filled with ads You bought a phone from an advertising company?

Don't recall my old nexus devices having ads in the OS. Disappointing where Google has taken this.

Technically they already did a built in ad with Android KitKat. Mostly benign, but I do remember being at an Android event and KitKats samples being given out to everyone. As well as KitKat wrappers being branded with the Android logo for a while.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Jumped to GrapheneOS a few months ago. Works great. The keyboard was bad but you should install FUTO, as some other comments recommend.

My only issue with it has been a few apps not working correctly, and not the ones I expected. I did my research before hand and knew that my banking apps would work, thinking those would be the main challenge.

Turns out the bike-sharing system in my city, Madrid, won't work. I ended up installing Google Play services (that run sandboxed in Graphene, but still wanted to avoid), and it works sometimes, but mostly doesn't. I use these bikes a few times a week, so this is a major hassle, and I end up carrying my ancient iPhone with me sometimes just for this.

This and Trade Republic have been my only two problems. Happy otherwise, but do your research before switching, and don't assume only the apps you expect to be problematic will be.

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