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Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #220

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Never ever trust AI summary cooking instructions. Holy crap. I made a serious error with that once.

I was searching for reverse sear info and it told me to make sure the steak is at least 37f/3c internally before eating lol

To be fair, being a solid block of ice would impair eatability

(I agree that AI result summaries would be quite handy, if Google's results weren't also so frequently incorrect at a basic or numeric level)

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #409

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Yandex is great if youre searching for pirated content or for DMCA'd content that ended up on Gitflic.ru Anti-drm tools are a big case in point. And so is Bypass Paywalls Clean Firefox plugin. All of these have been purged from the "Great American Corporate Firewall". Russian people != Russian govt != Russian companies. I just use the tools that work.

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Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #187

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Same here , about 95% of my searches o just look at the AI overview, and that’s been enough. I don’t like AI only idea but I think it will work just fine

So you are not actually searching for anything on web. This is more about using google as a web search engine, something it could do maybe a decade ago.

I’m not sure what do you mean. Quite often I’m trying to find an answer to something whether it’s an event, rule, informational. All of them consistently answered for me on AI overview.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #26

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It did for me, I can no longer find any GitHub project. Duck duck returns them on first try. Absolutely ridiculous, couldn't believe my eyes when I finally realized that. I get a ton of ads and product placements on first couple pages. What I search for is literally, word for word, name of the repository and it's not ambiguous.

Im curious, what is your query?

https://www.google.com/search?q=marine+nav+compass+card

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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=marine+nav+compass+card

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #26

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It did for me, I can no longer find any GitHub project. Duck duck returns them on first try. Absolutely ridiculous, couldn't believe my eyes when I finally realized that. I get a ton of ads and product placements on first couple pages. What I search for is literally, word for word, name of the repository and it's not ambiguous.

Huh? the github page of pretty much anything is always in the top 5 results for me.

https://www.google.com/search?q=marine+nav+compass+card

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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=marine+nav+compass+card

It's all products and ads now with Google with anything vague enough that warrants up-selling for them.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #26

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It did for me, I can no longer find any GitHub project. Duck duck returns them on first try. Absolutely ridiculous, couldn't believe my eyes when I finally realized that. I get a ton of ads and product placements on first couple pages. What I search for is literally, word for word, name of the repository and it's not ambiguous.

Thats interesting, because for me, I cant find anything on github, through github search and need to resort to google. Google search is super super terrible for other things tho :/

Possibly, but try this yourself to see how irritating Google can be:

https://www.google.com/search?q=marine+nav+compass+card

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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=marine+nav+compass+card

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #371

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I've been a Kagi subscriber for several years now. If you're questioning the AI features, know that I am only barely aware they exist. I have never, not even once, accidentally or otherwise, engaged the AI features without going out of my way to do so. I've never seen what their AI is like. I have no idea what it's for or why I'd want it. It's beautiful. Kagi has AI I suppose, but it's over there and not in my face.…

I'm curious: what is your use-case for a search engine that justifies Kagi over free search engines? Are you not finding your results on page one, first try, with other engines?

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Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #134

While there are good alternatives like DuckDuckGo, Mojeek, or Ecosia, there are also ad-free alternatives, where you're not the product, like Kagi [1] or Uruky [2] (I co-founded Uruky, which is also currently and for the foreseeable future "No-AI")! [1]: https://kagi.com [2]: https://uruky.com

Just FYI, at DuckDuckGo we have a search setting to turn ads off: https://duckduckgo.com/settings We also have a no ai version: https://noai.duckduckgo.com/

I switched to your service something like twelve or thirteen years ago now. I spent the first year or so adding `!g` to everything, but it's been a long time since I've felt the need to bother with that. Thanks for doing what you do.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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post #468
post #18

I must be the only person in this website who is happy with the AI Overview feature. It messes up sometimes (very rarely) but so do websites. And between ads, cookie popups, newsletter popups, notification permission popups, websites with a high Time to First Byte, and all the useless filler around the content, websites are a nightmare to browse. I would say that for almost all of my searches the AI Overview feature…

My problem with the AI Overview feature is that it provides what you're looking for at the expense of everyone who provided the data to make that functionality possible. Website owners losing traffic to the AI Overview feature is well-documented and has been discussed extensively here. This reality begets a few questions: ----------------- What happens when it no longer becomes profitable for anyone to share knowledg…

> What happens when it no longer becomes profitable for anyone to share knowledge online?

That we will go back to the time when posting stuff on the internet was done out of passion and not because of economic interests. I can’t wait.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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I imagine google is going the perplexity route, which is honestly fine by me since i do most of my searches with perplexity now. The search harness around it is good enough that i trust it to cite its sources and not go into opinion beyond necessity. If google could make it properly reliable with a good harness then i think its solid. I think this backlash against it wouldnt amount to much and people will just get on the new google
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