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Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Maybe it's just Microsoft moving to more model agnostic tech within their copilot. I recently started using Microsoft 365 Copilot because corporate added Cowork which runs on Opus 4.7 which was better than the alternative we have available. Unlike the "real" Claude Code or Cowork this only has access to files in a specific onedrive folder in your personal sharepoint container, so it's much more compliant to things li…

Copilot Cowork seems to be the best part of M365 Copilot by a huge margin.

I really dislike that I can't customize it with permanent config files, similar to how I can configure a regular GPT model agen. I guess it's probably because it's in the fancy word they use for "beta".

I haven't really used any other Copilot product in a while since they were so bad compared to our other corporate options, but I'm rather impressed with Cowork inside it. Exactly because we can actually use it without breaking any EU laws.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Dogfooding only works if it actually helps improve the product. zune never improved. Dogfooding without improving is just eating dog food for no good reason.

Sure success is not guaranteed. But dogfooding helps. Should Microsoft have stopped dogfooding because of Zune? They are worth multiples of trillion dollars so I would wager they know a little more about success than you and me.

> They are worth multiples of trillion dollars so I would wager they know a little more about success than you and me.

Hahahaha. Are you saying that if we did what they do we’d be successful? Because I’m perfectly happy to be where I am if it means I’m nothing, nothing at all like Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Sure success is not guaranteed. But dogfooding helps. Should Microsoft have stopped dogfooding because of Zune? They are worth multiples of trillion dollars so I would wager they know a little more about success than you and me.

> They are worth multiples of trillion dollars so I would wager they know a little more about success than you and me. Hahahaha. Are you saying that if we did what they do we’d be successful? Because I’m perfectly happy to be where I am if it means I’m nothing, nothing at all like Microsoft.

I'd keep the conversation to dogfooding and how it helped Microsoft achieve unique status, but you do you.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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It seems like new Holy Wars will rage between those who can afford models like the Opus 4.7 or GPT 5.5 Pro, which in my opinion are unlikely to have been used for anything serious, as they're simply several times more expensive than any human effort. There's a speed advantage (still questionable), and quality isn't guaranteed, but the price completely kills everything. And between those who actually write the code an…

I’m curious to learn of your problem where you needed 17 Golang microservices (assuming these are newly created).

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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> What does frequency bias have to do with the objective fact that hundreds of people reported This isn't hard to understand "Model is nerfed" claim hits social media Someone else sees it, frequency bias makes them think their model is also nerfed, and they amplify the claim Now it spreads, like a virus, even if the model never changed Social dynamics like this are well understood psychologically > If the LLM used to…

Did your LLM context get blown up or why does your comment read like linkedin-style post with one-liner sentences structure? Did you really just claim that people are so gullible that it was social media or whatever that made them believe their LLM could no longer achieve the tasks it yesterday could, and not the actual FACT of LLM not being able to do it that they, you know, verified before complaining online? I gue…

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Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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Productivity. You generate the skeleton of the code with Codex/Claude Code/et. al. and refactor it manually. It's kind of unlikely that an AI agent will be able to one-shot every bit of code in the exact way you want, even with a fat AGENTS.md file. With a smart AI-native IDE like Zed, it will quickly be able to pick up what manual change you intent to do without you fully typing out anything, especially if they're r…

My setup I can do exactly the same? I get CC to do some work in a terminal window, I inspect and refactor in an IDE, and we bounce back and forth like that. I have 2 monitors, Claude on one, IDE on the other.

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Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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The comments I see recommending selective use of cheaper models doesn't match the reality I experience working in the industry. I have the constant threat hanging over my head of being fired if I don't churn out code quickly enough. I'm not willing to gamble with my livelyhood by using a less effective model. Saving money on tokens isn't something that's rewarded during performance reviews; particularly because it's…

> I don't churn out code quickly enough

Curious what industry that is.

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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post #473

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> They are worth multiples of trillion dollars so I would wager they know a little more about success than you and me. Hahahaha. Are you saying that if we did what they do we’d be successful? Because I’m perfectly happy to be where I am if it means I’m nothing, nothing at all like Microsoft.

I'd keep the conversation to dogfooding and how it helped Microsoft achieve unique status, but you do you.

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Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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> LLMs don't really scale if you're still the bottlneck This only works if there's no consequences if your code breaks. In the eyes of other humans you're responsible for what you commit. No amount of "scaling" will change that.

> This only works if there's no consequences if your code breaks. In the eyes of other humans you're responsible for what you commit. No amount of "scaling" will change that. You're only responsible for what you merge to master, not everything you commit to a feature branch no one is looking at... If you have the testing and the infrastructure in place such that you can't ship broken code, then you just need to make…

So you're making a programming language... and you don't want to read code. Have I got the gist of it?

Re: Microsoft starts canceling Claude Code licenses

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> This only works if there's no consequences if your code breaks. In the eyes of other humans you're responsible for what you commit. No amount of "scaling" will change that. You're only responsible for what you merge to master, not everything you commit to a feature branch no one is looking at... If you have the testing and the infrastructure in place such that you can't ship broken code, then you just need to make…

So you're making a programming language... and you don't want to read code. Have I got the gist of it?

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