Flipper One – we need your help • Hacker News Board

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 22, 2026, 12:00 PM UTC

ianstormtaylor wrote: post #365

embedding-shape wrote: post #314

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This effort seems less of a "Help us by buying our product" and more a plea for contributors as a FOSS effort, they want to do things like this: "Collabora + Flipper: Opening up the RK3576" https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/coll... , and are basically looking for developers and other technology enthusiasts to help them both with the projects themselves, and also try to network (socially) their w…

If anyone’s wondering why this replier is so angry, it’s because they spent a lot of time arguing with people further down the comment section over whether this article is too heavily written by AI. (I'd say it is.) It probably irked them to find the top comment had no mention of AI, but is still getting at the same root problem… the article is 2-3x longer than it could be, with lots of rambling and repetition, so it…

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Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by megiddo » Fri, May 22, 2026, 12:09 PM UTC

I bought a flipper zero to reverse the shitty wireless remote that my pool equipment vendor wanted $1000 for.

This remote sent signals right in the middle of the flippers range.

The flipper didn't work for shit, was fucking weird, and had piss-poor documentation. The promise was democratizing radio hacking digital signals. That was, in the most charitable light, an oversell.

So for the low price of $200, I found out I could just buy a replacement remote off ebay for cheap rather than hacking up my own receiver.

Also, you can BUY a flipper, but you can't SELL a flipper.

Anyways, that's my flipper experience, I wish them the best but also I don't give a shit.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by jessyco » Fri, May 22, 2026, 12:19 PM UTC

embedding-shape wrote: post #375

refulgentis wrote: post #372

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They're responding to the same question I had, and others surely had. Namely, we see a AI DDOS'ing blog entry, 20 pages text, 35 with images, thats a mishmash of specs and requesting help with...Linux kernel coding!? to support their selected SoC? For hardware they're already accepting preorders for? Then, someone reframing confusion as many people failing to read, which is about the most incurious and thought short-…

> as well as why you're taking things personally (vendetta? really?) Yeah, if you bring up completely unrelated stuff I've said elsewhere in a different context, to bring up where it's off-topic, then how is that anything else than personal, even the assumption about what feelings I'm feeling? Reply to what I said in that thread, if it's so damn important for you that I read what you write. Fine, I understand the two…

Well said, and handled.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by embedding-shape » Fri, May 22, 2026, 12:44 PM UTC

a1o wrote: post #429

embedding-shape wrote: post #367

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> If anyone’s wondering why this replier is so angry Angry? I'm guessing it's the last part that made me seem angry, I'm not though, just human, and tired of people who say they want to help yet seemingly reading is too much. A bit of straightforward language seems more effective at communicating this, than dancing around the issue. And why on earth would I care if the top comment mentions AI? I don't even read HN co…

Does sorting in chronological order require a special client for HN or is this something available in the web interface? (I can’t find it)

Special client, I'm currently developing my own native, local-first, cross-platform HN client, a tiny little 7MB built-from-scratch beast: https://i.imgur.com/Y87KJwY.png :)

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Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by Schlagbohrer » Fri, May 22, 2026, 12:59 PM UTC

h14h wrote: post #342

The RK3576 is a really interesting/versatile chip and it is awesome to see major effort going into baking full support into the linux kernel. I could see it opening up a ton of doors for awesome FOSS hardware projects w/ AI accelerated workloads. One idea I have (but realistically will probably never build) is an e-ink notepad with a microphone that I can ask to generate custom note-taking templates. As a niche examp…

This type of thing could be an absolutely wonderful assistive tool for people who can't use their arms, or for people in a spacesuit or firefighting gloves or a chemistry lab where actually-functional voice commands would be awesome.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by Schlagbohrer » Fri, May 22, 2026, 1:00 PM UTC

After reading this I estimate it will ship at the absolute earliest two full years from today, and cost $500 at that time, given the huge supply chain shocks that are happening right now.

What do ya'll think? over-under $500? Longer than 2 years to market?

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by squarefoot » Fri, May 22, 2026, 1:21 PM UTC

There have been multiple reports of Flipper Zero devices being seized because they're known as burglars and black hat hackers tools. If I had to design a successor, first requirement would be to let go the popularity brought by its name+form factor and find different ones. Among my favorite is the LilyGo T-Deck Plus or something along the same look; worse that can happen is being laughed at for still using a Blackberry in 2026. https://lilygo.cc/products/t-deck-plus-1

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by himata4113 » Fri, May 22, 2026, 1:28 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #424

himata4113 wrote: post #392

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I understand that much, but we have the firmware - we don't have to extract it or rebuild it in a white-room? Or is some of that information baked into the firmware that we cannot flash? I've reversed some camera sensor binary blobs recently and I didn't have too many issues, only took a really long time (5 days) of running in a loop until source matched the original (sematically). I parsed the blobs into an intermed…

> I understand that much, but we have the firmware - we don't have to extract it or rebuild it in a white-room? You need a testing lab with easily 500k worth of gear and construction cost if not way more than that to probe the data buses and obtain the parameters, we're talking about 1.6 GHz (RAM) or, and here it gets dark, up to 16 GHz (PCIe) frequency here. A scope alone that's capable of digesting such signals run…

The firmware is loaded into these modules from the central compute unit, we already have that information and we don't need to probe or read it? Yes of course harvesting it from datalines is a non-starter, but we control the cpu and everything that runs on it which communicates with the RF chips. This isn't some black box nintento switch where we don't have root access.

Is there something I am fundementally misunderstanding?

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by jerf » Fri, May 22, 2026, 1:31 PM UTC

trinix912 wrote: post #459

jerf wrote: post #255

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I've seen many people on reddit use AIs to translate their text. Given that it clearly puts the "default AI voice" on top of their text, it makes me think that it is a fairly inaccurate translation. I suspect something like Google Translate is still better for most people, because it seems to do better at maintaining the voice. Of course in the limit, what I'm calling "voice" simply can't be translated between langua…

In my experience, Google Translate is still so much worse than even free ChatGPT at translating that it is unusable for anything you want to put out and have it seem at least somewhat professional. Especially the voice, ChatGPT seems to infer the formality and overall tone much better than Google Translate. YMMV.

Bummer. I'm sure someone could build a fantastic translator with our current AI stack but I can't argue with them that the return would not be worth it compared to training another general-purpose AI. But the general-purpose AIs impose way too much of their own voice on the translated results.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

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Post by dr_zlo13 » Fri, May 22, 2026, 1:33 PM UTC

Aurornis wrote: post #301

jsmith45 wrote: post #237

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A combined MPU and MCU architecture isn't that exotic. ST microelectronics currently sells a single chip with that contains a two core Cortex A7 Microprocessor combined with a microcontroller. Admittedly more tightly integrated with ability to communicate via shared memory. The "custom os" part could also be done easilly enough with the correct approach. Specifically systemd has a less-known feature known as system e…

> A combined MPU and MCU architecture isn't that exotic. ST microelectronics currently sells a single chip with that contains a two core Cortex A7 Microprocessor combined with a microcontroller. Admittedly more tightly integrated with ability to communicate via shared memory. Don't underestimate the value of that integration. With the hybrid architecture chips you get the vendor controls for managing the MCU with sup…

Absolutely every laptop uses this same architecture, you can even find the source code of the MCU firmware for Framework laptops and Chromebooks (chromium-ec).