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Wow, that's bad. Looks like the warnings about TPM and remote attestation being a backdoor to total digital lockdown from the Stallman contingent were right.
The tin foil hatters are always told they're making slippery slope fallacies until they're proven right a few years later. Over and over again.
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People are definitely trying to make HN bots because I have seen several get flagged. No idea to what end though.
the suits or suit minded people have realised that HN is good for advertising to the kind of demographic that'll give them free labour and is easily swayed by whatever the latest trend is
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There are certain topics that seem to get instantly flag-killed unusually often. IPv6 is one.
I've been more disturbed by comments that were flagkilled just for being wrongthink, not because they were rude or not well argued. I've also seen a lot less of those flagkills over the last 6 months, which makes me feel like there were some fake accounts that got caught and culled.
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> However it did not matter. The posts remained popular and continued to bring in comments even after the admission that they were fake That's 90% of current Facebook pages and groups.
The decline of Facebook is sad. I liked it early on. I used it primarily to follow family and casual friends from high school. When they posted, it would show up on my feed, I read all the posts, and that was that. After awhile I had to wade through all sorts of nonsense to get to the posts I actually wanted to see, and even later Facebook stopped putting posts from people I follow in my feed. It was 100% garbage. I…
Also people will get used to AI in online spaces as AI quality improves. If I'm online trying to get help for some task, I personally don't care who wrote what if it is correct; it's not like humans have great track records of accuracy or substantial contributions either on average. Correctness is expensive in general.
If I'm online trying to relate to other humans emotionally, well I get what I'm paying for. It's been true forever that the better the gate, the better the community. I've tried to push the boundaries of openness, but as I've written extensively on MeatballWiki, soft security depends on there being more good than bad apples in a community. With machine intelligence, the economics of that are silly.
Regardless, people love people, so we'll figure it out. I'm optimistic we can rise to this challenge.
Yes, but how many decimal places did you optimistically give it, only to never use more than the "10s" place?
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Note that "attestation through a web of trust" means something like needing an invite from an existing user. It doesn't have to mean mass surveillance.
Then how can you have a community that is welcoming to people who are not part of the ingroup? I want to create a community for immigrants. How would I make it welcoming to recent immigrants for whom no one can vouch? A web of trust is a wonderful tool, but it's exclusive by design. This is a problem for some communities, even though it makes others much better.
AI will be a forcing function that pushes people to go meet in real life to do stuff together. Even if everything online is fake, events are not. So if people say they’re going to show up somewhere, there must eventually be a moment of truth. And then you can form high trust private group chats to keep talking together. It may be hard for the current generation of chronically online people to adjust to that new reali…
Maybe, but the small groups that form out there in the real world will each be much smaller than the large group that stays and gets jerked around by the bots. The large group will have to endure the manipulations that we've come to know and hate from the internet, but they'll also be better coordinated than the small ones. They'll vote together, buy the same sorts of things, have an outiszed influence on the global…