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Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by izacus »

mikkupikku wrote: post #409
izacus wrote: post #316

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Did you consider that your talking about GROUPS of people where _some_ individuals from ALL groups regularly behave poorly and deserve criticism and action? Or is that too much of a nuance against tribal thinking?

Why do you think I'm not aware of this? Did I not just explain how different people who do the activity have different perspectives, priorities and proclivities? Did I not just explain how I disagree with the way some cyclists conduct themselves, while plainly being aware that not all cyclists are like this? Maybe none of this way apparent to you, despite it being plainly written out in simple English, because... I d…

And yet you immediately started with an anti-cyclist whine while ignoring pretty much everyone else.

These debates are so stupidly tiresome.

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by arjie »

jonahrd wrote: post #465
arjie wrote: post #304

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It's just cultural. If there's a cultural expectation of the ring/honk it's not rude. e.g. in India people will honk as a form of active group flock behaviour but foreigners will interpret it as everyone saying "get out of my way"; but in some European countries I have seen that people use the bell (much less noisy than the typical Indian street) and it's got the same meaning. In Hawaii, if you ever honk at someone,…

Can you explain to me what it means to try to get the traffic light to change on Bush street? I tried searching for it but couldn't find anything.

It was a not-particularly-amusing joke that people honk because doing so helps the light change. It doesn’t, of course, but I used to work at a building at the intersection of Bush and Sansome (I think), the Standard Oil Building, and every day at 5 PM the honking would put Bombay to shame.

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

Bender wrote: post #432
michh wrote: post #234

Coincidentally, I bought a 12v car horn yesterday with the intent of wiring it into my ebike's power supply with a little button on my handlebars. Not because of other cyclists or pedestrians wearing (anc) headphones but because modern cars are so heavily sound-proofed they don't hear a bicycle bell anymore. A recent incident with an inattentive taxi driver in a brand new EV nearly flattening me prompted me to want t…

I want to see a bike with a train horn. Cars do it all the time. [1][2][3][4] illegal and highly satisfying People have used drills+pumps to drive similar hand-held horns at football games so it is doable. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOKgg5iCw_c [2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enF0m6J7g2w [Tiny car with train horn] [3] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w31s5NsoOyg [4] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v…

Oh yeah... the good old 3 or 4 tone "train" honrs from Cadillacs

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/are-you-tired-of-your-wi...

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by ziml77 »

bmicraft wrote: post #412
mightysashiman wrote: post #296

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On my wh-1000xm2, wh-1000xm3, wf-1000xm4 and lastly wf-1000xm5, there is a quite high frequency pitch (usually coincides with some public transport beeps, and some accidental squeaking of doors) that toggles ANC to transparent mode automatically. I remember reading something about this on Sony's support website.

My XM4's always do that at the beeps from the cash register, although I always attributed that to their volume rather than frequency. My theory was that they refuse to produce sound loud enough to cancel the beeps for safety reasons.

I suspect as much too. If there's a failure to match the noise perfectly then the headphones are just going be be blasting a loud sound into your ears. And if it matches the frequency correctly but lines up with the sound instead of being out of phase, then it's acting as an amplifier!

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Post by post_break »

jmugan wrote: post #475

I don't understand why it is my responsibility to hear your bell. Just don't hit me.

If only people had spatial awareness, they would look around vs listening to their phone changing directions randomly while walking. The bell is for both persons safety.

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by namibj »

fusslo wrote: post #438
stevage wrote: post #302

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>My opinion as a cyclist is that I should basically only be using my bell on pedestrians when the pedestrians are wandering onto the bike lane. If im cycling through a shared space, I find it extremely rude to ring the bell, because it feels like I'm telling people to get out of my way, but they have just as much right to a shared path as I do. The culture around this varies a lot. I'm in Melbourne, Australia. Virtua…

my own experience is that in the city the bell was to alert people that I think aren't paying attention to me and may be about to step into the bike lane. 100% like you said, I'm letting someone know I'm there Now that I moved to the country with a comprehensive rails-to-trail network, I thank all the cyclists that use the bell to let me know they're coming up behind me. What really irks me is the dudes going 30+mph…

In Germany it's illegal to drive bikes that assist beyond 28km/h (about 20mph) in what are true bike paths (which can be built as lanes! And, notably, they can be marked as virtual-lane-shared (pictogram side by side with a vertical divider) or as true shared (pictogram above and below at a horizontal divider), if pedestrians are also allowed to use them.

An ancient gas-e-bike rating is allowed on them outside city limits but iirc those bikes are exceedingly rare since even before e-bikes became truly mainstream.

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Post by amstan »

hnuser123456 wrote: post #365
vscode-rest wrote: post #342

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At least they’re forward about it - I’ve lost count of how many bike accessories claimed to be USB C, but they only charge when connected to their specialized cable that converts from USB A to C.

Double-sided USB-C connections require a handshake before sending voltage. USB-A ports can have the 5v line active at all times. Cheap USB C gadgets often don't make the handshake, they just use it as a 5V input, necessitating an A to C cable.

I think you're overstating this. The "handshake" is purely 2 simple resistors correctly installed. The problem is a lot of folks do it wrong for various reasons, most likely never testing with anything more than type a to type c cables.

https://people.kernel.org/bleung/how-to-design-a-proper-usb-...

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by namibj »

Fricken wrote: post #433
stevage wrote: post #302

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>My opinion as a cyclist is that I should basically only be using my bell on pedestrians when the pedestrians are wandering onto the bike lane. If im cycling through a shared space, I find it extremely rude to ring the bell, because it feels like I'm telling people to get out of my way, but they have just as much right to a shared path as I do. The culture around this varies a lot. I'm in Melbourne, Australia. Virtua…

It's legally mandated in my city so I guess the polite thing to do is ring a bell, you know, just stick to the protocol, for everyone's sake. A bell however seems at least as likely to startle someone into behaving erratically as not. As far as the pedestrian's safety is concerned what matters is either giving them a wide berth or slowing right down when passing. Whether on a bike or not I'm sick of all the modern wo…

First reaction to warning tone should always be to (safely!) stop and assess.

Considering that the persons involved can't be expected to not be deaf, or functionally so via e.g. headphones, and thus you always have to be able to brake anyways. Running onto a driving lane (be it bikes or cars doesn't matter) without looking especially if the direction you didn't look just gave an audible warning is always reckless.

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