There are a lot of foldable options in the Android world now. I wonder when Apple will create an offering of their own. An unfolded screen could be great for reading source code, not that I've tried.
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#472Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple follows the market. There just aren’t many people who want small phones, HN notwithstanding. If they sold like hotcakes they’d have a full lineup. And I kind of get it. Philosophically I want a small phone. Realities of age and eyesight forbid. The market is basically people who don’t read or watch videos on their phone, and who have excellent eyesight, and who don’t care about having the best cameras. 100% leg…
The iphone air isn’t popular either and yet here we are. They preferred releasing a huge thin phone than a tiny thin phone. Even if the % of clients is small, there are still millions of potential mini clients
I interpret the same facts differently: I see Apple realizing that the SE form factor doesn’t sell enough to be worth it, and trying something different with the Air. It sounds like the Air will likely go the way of the SE, with occasional updates but not every year.
Apple is very good at market research and understanding users… but not perfect. I think they genuinely believed the Air would sell a lot more than it did.
And “millions” is not necessarily a lot. Apple sells 250 million phones a year. A SKU that sells 3 million is a distraction with much lower ROI against R&D than a mainline phone. It takes just as much engineering to create and as much manufacturing to produce, so fixed costs are spread among many fewer units.
Re: iPhone 17e
#473Looking at the specs of this, why would anybody need a more expensive iphone. This has everything a normal phone needs.
That’s what I thought when I bought the 16 E, but liquid glass ruined it because the GPU sucks. So buyer beware.
Well, that's it. I cannot stand HN anymore. Literally my experience is being downvted and no one commenting on why what I said was negative. And just warning people to wait to by the phone is now frowned on? Nothing but a bunch of capitalist suck up fanbois here I guess.
Same thing happened on a quantum science post. If you cannot express why you disagree with me either you are a schill or your thoughts are not solid enough.
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#474There are a lot of foldable options in the Android world now. I wonder when Apple will create an offering of their own. An unfolded screen could be great for reading source code, not that I've tried.
Rumor has it that Apple is releasing it this year.
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I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants. You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, a…
Apple follows the market. There just aren’t many people who want small phones, HN notwithstanding. If they sold like hotcakes they’d have a full lineup. And I kind of get it. Philosophically I want a small phone. Realities of age and eyesight forbid. The market is basically people who don’t read or watch videos on their phone, and who have excellent eyesight, and who don’t care about having the best cameras. 100% leg…
> Realities of age and eyesight forbid
Am old. Am experiencing presbyopia. Am still very much tied to my mini on the default font size. When I can't read something I just pinch/zoom. Meanwhile it's easy to hold & use in one hand while walking down the street, and fits into normal sized pockets.
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#476Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants. You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, a…
Many people used low iPhone mini sales to point at the idea that small phones aren't popular anymore. They might be right, but the "Mini" was more like a return to the size of the 6 & 8; not the same size as the 5 or prior SE. So for me it was still too large. https://imgur.com/a/iphone-mini-vs-iphone-5-vs-iphone-6-case... The "usable screen" is where my thumb can reach, not whatever idea people have in their heads a…
> The "usable screen" is where my thumb can reach, not whatever idea people have in their heads about the total size of the phone or anything, truthfully.
In the early days of the phablets I had an observation that has mostly held true all these years later. At the time I noticed you could accurately predict whether someone wanted the large or small form factor based on their usage patterns. Did they tend to use their device while sitting down? Or did they tend to use their device while on the move? This indicated whether or not they typically used 2 hands vs 1 hand.
It turned out the 2 handers dominated the market, unfortunately for people like you & I.
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Is this really a driving factor for people? If I anticipate tasks that I can't wait to get back to a good work environment to do, I'll bring my laptop and tether on my phone. It's a fantastically more productive setup than trying to ssh in via a phone keyboard or even write a long email. 1 inch extra on the phone screen diagonal won't move the needle there for me.
Yes and even though you haven’t watched TV in 20 years ((c) Slashdot) people still watch TV. The feigned ignorance on HN that most normal people don’t pull their laptops out to do everything in 2026 is amazing
It‘s also generational. My 18yo sister in law is now applying for colleges and the word “application” immediately made her look for an app. That the whole process happened on a (not mobile friendly) website was rather surprising to her.
(English is her 3rd language)
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#478256GB? My laptop has 8TB. Why is Apple so stingy?
I'm using less than 100 GB of total storage on my phone. I'm not sure how your laptop is supposed to come into that but 256 GB is already plenty for the smallest possible option to select, doubly so since this is the budget variant.
The bogus part with the storage here is instead on needing to pay $200 more just to get to 512 GB.
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#479Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}
I abandoned mine for a 16. It’s not so bad but I miss my 13 at times.
Re: iPhone 17e
#480I wonder if the Small Android Phone project has moved forward since the last time it was posted here: https://smallandroidphone.com
So... there is a 4" Android phone out there. It's widely available, and from a major manufacturer. It's very usable, and it runs mostly stock Android. I have it, and I like it very much. Brace yourself for the reveal because you're not going to like it. It's a foldable. It's the Motorola Razr+ or Razr Ultra (I have the 2025 Ultra). The outer screen is 4" and you can use it for almost everything you want to do. I use…
How likely, that Motorola Razr will run GrapheneOS?