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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

> The president of peace btw.

Europe is to blame, according to him.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

#472

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

I know I left that Nobel Peace Prize somewhere … but I can't find it because there's so much America First lying around. I know, I'll ask the aliens and the US men's hockey team if they've seen it.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

Being attacked should rule out 'war of aggression', but I guess the phrase seems to have lost any meaning in modern discourse. Apparently you can spend all the time calling 'death to X' and then get shocked when others take you seriously.

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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I have to wonder how much of this is driven by Israel accounting for the risk of less favorable US relationship in the future. Pre-emptive violence; not even justified with a narrative of escalating threat. Bleak for anybody who knows their history.

The US has moved half of its navy in the region, and there are doubts about its support?

That is only 6% of our Navy. Not half.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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I am just befuddled by how much of this violence is directly motivated by religious concerns, both on the side of Iran and on the side of Israel and USA. I have been reading on the topic of shunyata or emptiness in Mahayana Buddhism, and have been uncomfortably observing just how much of the artifacts we take to be real and substantial in the world are just "made up". They don't have an inherent reality of their own…

> I am just befuddled by how much of this violence is directly motivated by religious concerns, both on the side of Iran and on the side of Israel and USA.

Can you provide an example of this in 2026?

It seems a little tenable with the ayatollah and Iran. But even here you don’t hear much talk of this being a war in the name of religion anymore. Nowhere near a few years ago and certainly nothing like 9/11 and the Taliban.

And I hear nobody in Israel or America talking that way. Just a war defending people against attackers at the gates.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

What I would like people to understand is that this isn't a partisan issue. As bad as Trump is, American foreign policy is uniparty. Just look at the rhetoric from the Democratic Party leadership on an Iran strike. You have the likes of Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries quibbling over the procedure not the policy, saying Congress needs to approve action, not that that action is belligerent or unwarranted.

October 7 happened under a Democratic president and continued essentially unchanged under Trump. Biden consistently lied about "red lines" and seeing a ceasefire [1].

The problem here isn't one party or one persident, it's America's commitment to imperialism, of which Iran is just one aspect. Since WW2 especially there has been so much regime change done or aided by the US as well as military action, it has it's own Wikipedia page [2].

And what did Kamala Harris promise to change about Biden's Middle East policy? Absolutely nothing [3]. It's a big part of why she lost and the DNC don't want to admit that so they're trying to cover up the 2024 autopsy [4].

Don't fool yourself into thinking anything would be different under a Kamala Harris administration.

[1]: https://internationalpolicy.org/publications/the-biden-admin...

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

[3]: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/8/8/biden-vs-harris-...

[4]: https://www.axios.com/2026/02/22/dnc-2024-autopsy-harris-gaz...

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

Being attacked should rule out 'war of aggression', but I guess the phrase seems to have lost any meaning in modern discourse. Apparently you can spend all the time calling 'death to X' and then get shocked when others take you seriously.

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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The take home message from this is that the only way for any country to be secure is to have nuclear weapons.

I just want to expand on this. 1. According to the US and Israel, Iran has been a week away from having nuclear weapons for at least 34 years [1]; 2. It's quite clear Iran could've developed nuclear weapons but chose not to. I actually think was a mistake. The real lesson from the so-called War on Terror was that only nuclear weapons will preserve your regime (ie Norht Korea); 3. Israel is a nuclear power. It's widel…

Yes, because "what choice did Iran have" other than:

1. Routinely calling for death to Israel and America, turning it into part of the national curriculum and sowing hate

2. Funding, training, supplying and directing multiple violent proxy organizations around the region which attacked Israel and undermined their own countries (Hezbollah in Lebanon and Syria, Houthis in Yemen, Hamas in West Bank and Gaza, other organizations in Iraq)

3. Enriching Uranium to clearly non-civilian grade in multiple militarily hardened facilities;

4. Directly attacking multiple Jewish targets around the world (like the AMIA and then embassy bombings in Argentina)

5. Attacking neighboring countries with ballistic and cruise missiles, like the attacks on Saudi Aramco in 2019

6. Holding international shipping and energy markets hostage by threatening to attack ships and tankers in the Persian Gulf

7. Abusing their own citizens, including public executions, persecutions and extreme violence

8. Providing support to Russia in their efforts in Ukraine, and especially drones used for indiscriminate dumb attack waves against civilians and infrastructure

Now we have people arguing that if they had just gotten nukes then they could have continued doing all of that.

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