This is getting silly guys. All on the same team. Need to have a c.t.j. meeting.
I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk
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#472Something is clearly unraveling.
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#473Labeling a company that refused to comply with nakedly authoritarian orders is a true New Speak moment
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#474> "Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic." Does this mean Azure & AWS will have to stop offering Claude as a model?
I wonder, can't Amazon create a new legal entity to split AWS into "AWS-for-DoD" and "AWS-for-everyone-else"? So one can work with Anthropic and the other can't. Not sure how it works in the US.
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#475Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this the same Administration that reversed a previous block, and allowed NVIDIA to sell H200 to China?
Good thing this administration will be a lame duck in 8 months, and they know it.
Unless ICE ensures it’s is a ”fair” election with the ”correct” outcome.
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#476Earlier quoted context omitted.
The real question we should be asking is what others HAVE agreed to. Has OpenAI just agreed to let the government go crazy with their models?
If you read Anthropic statement carefully, they explicitly confirm they are already working with the U.S. government on a range of military and national security use cases, many including areas that clearly relate to real world lethal operations. They are only refusing two narrow, but important categories. Framing this as blanket "refusal to support the DoD" feels like an angry, reactive own goal rather than a carefu…
Basically now all those projects are screwed and need to restart with another provider. I'm sure that's not going to be a massive PITA and delay for all involved.
Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk
#477"They have threatened to remove us from their systems if we maintain these safeguards; they have also threatened to designate us a “supply chain risk”—a label reserved for US adversaries, never before applied to an American company—and to invoke the Defense Production Act to force the safeguards’ removal. These latter two threats are inherently contradictory: one labels us a security risk; the other labels Claude as…
Supply chain risk ? Seems the risk here is the US Gov't wanting free reign to do whatever they want - - when they want. Look no further than the famous expose by Mark Klein, the former AT&T technician and whistleblower who exposed the NSA's mass surveillance program in 2006, revealing the existence of "Room 641A" in San Francisco. He discovered that AT&T was using a "splitter" to copy and divert internet traffic to t…
And I think on big difference between <2006 and now is that back then nobody knew about it - now they just request it in public.
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#478Hard decision by Anthropic, but at least they can sleep well at night knowing their products doesn’t kill human beings around the world.
That’s the crazy thing. This whole dispute was over Anthropic saying no to fully automated kill bots. They only required there be a human in the loop to press the button.
I think it’s far more likely this is about the other sticking point- using it to spy on US citizens.
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#479This could kill Anthropic. The designation says any contractor, supplier, or partner doing business with the US military can’t conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic. Well, AWS has JWCC. Microsoft has Azure Government. Google has DoD contracts. If that language is enforced broadly, then Claude gets kicked off Bedrock, Vertex, and potentially Azure… which is where all the enterprise revenue lives. Claude canno…
No, Anthropic could easily call their bluff.
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#480Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can someone in plain terms explain what this is really about? Anyone can use Claude afaik?
> Can someone in plain terms explain what this is really about? This administration built almost entirely of dunces and conmen has convinced itself/been convinced that chatbots will help them in deciding where to send nukes, and/or they are invested in the incredibly over-leveraged companies engaged in the AI-boom and stand to profit directly by siphoning taxpayer dollars to said companies. My money is on the latter…
I prefer to call them chatboxes. It's appropriately belittling. The department of killing wants their chatbox to tell them who to kill.