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They have the resources to make native UI for all six major platforms without any AI assistance at all. Maybe their dog food isn't as tasty as they want you to believe.
They have the resources to do a lot of things, what else should they waste them on?
The framing here assumes you need to ship native to all 3 platforms to justify leaving Electron. You don't. I've been building a native macOS AI client in Swift — it's 15MB, provider-agnostic, and open source: https://github.com/dinoki-ai/osaurus Committing to one platform well beats a mediocre Electron wrapper on all three.
I don't care if it's QT or a WebView or something else, I just want to lower friction for myself
> For now, Electron still makes sense A few years ago maybe. Tauri makes better sense for this use case today - like Electron but with system webviews, so at least doesn't bloat your system with extra copies of Chrome. And strongly encourages Rust for the application core over JS/Node.
Electron has never made sense. It is only capable of making poorly performing software which eats the user's RAM for no good reason. Any developer who takes pride in his work would never use a tool as bad as Electron.
Women, however, are welcome to use electron
This post and this entire thread are HN-sniping to the millionth degree. We have all the classics here: - AI bad - JavaScript bad - Developers not understanding why Electron has utility because they don't understand the browser as a fourth OS platform - Electron eats my ram oh no posted from my 2gb thinkpad
We should repeat it over and over until all these electrons apps are replaced by proper native apps. It’s not just performance: they look like patched websites, have inconsistent style and bad usability, and packed with bugs that are already solved since tens of years in our OS. It’s like Active Desktop ™ all over. Working on a native Mac app feels just better.
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> Finally, Claude is great at it. So the model is not a generalised AI then? It is just a JS stack autocomplete?
Claude isn't AGI, but this is a terrible argument. I'm better at Javascript than C, too. Does this mean I'm not a generalized intelligence? I'm just JS stack autocomplete?
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> have inconsistent style You mean incongruent styles? As in, incongruent to the host OS. There is no doubt electron apps allow the style to be consistent across platforms.
No, they are also inconsistent: slack, vscode, zed, claude, chatgpt, figma, notion, zoom, docker desktop, to quote some that i use daily. They have all different UI patterns and design. The only thing they have in common is that are slow, laggy, difficult to use and don’t respond quickly to the Window manager. Compare to other software on Mac such as Pages, Xcode, Tower, Transmission, Pixelmator, mp3tag, Table plus,…
Electron apps look the same on each platform therefore they are consistent.
The meta point is the effort required to be consistent with the OS.
You listed MacOS only apps, emphasising the point.
To do a per OS consistent experience is N times the effort.
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Yeah, I'm kind of disheartened by the number of people who still insist that LLMs are an expensive flop with no potential to meaningfully change software engineering. In a few years, they'll be even better than they are now. They're already writing code that is perfectly decent, especially when someone is supervising and describing test cases.
Yea what? This is exactly why they should switch to native apps. Native apps are not harder to maintain than JavaScript especially with LLM guidance on APIs and such. I don't understand why your confidence in LLM code ability means you don't think it can succeed with native apps
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Yea what? This is exactly why they should switch to native apps. Native apps are not harder to maintain than JavaScript especially with LLM guidance on APIs and such. I don't understand why your confidence in LLM code ability means you don't think it can succeed with native apps
Having 3x the apps generally means having 3x the support burden, and this is true with or without LLMs.