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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by singpolyma3 »

palata wrote: post #441
singpolyma3 wrote: post #433

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Yes I agree, apps should never mentioned XEPs. Most devs have no reason to even know about them, why would a user case? Some apps are built by protocol nerds and they like seeing the list. Maybe very hidden is ok but in general not something any user cares about.

How would devs not have to know about them? Say I want to write an XMPP-enabled app, how do I do it? Are there XMPP libraries that already implement all the required need protocols?

Yes. I work on one of them https://borogove.dev but there are a few others as well

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Post by tcfhgj »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #369
popcar2 wrote: post #222

I was considering making a similar list since I was very interested in checking out alternative chat programs, but I have to say this list isn't that good. A lot of the alternatives here aren't ACTUALLY Discord alternatives. Most people use Discord for its community features and being able to join massive servers with 1+ million people, follow news, talk in forums, etc... It also has a lot of features people hand-wai…

The closest realistic option is probably XMPP and Mumble. I just think both need a modern UI that supports everything that Discord offers OOTB. I am working on a client for XMPP on the side, nothing special yet, but I can login and chat with myself on a prosody instance, so there is that. Would love to work on open source full time, but it never seems to pay the bills. I do intend on eventually open sourcing my clien…

Matrix + Cinny might be a good option, too.

It has a Discord like UI, but the voice and video they're working on isn't released yet

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by Sephr »

Discord would have never gotten to where it is today if not for the Mumble community never shipping a decent fully-featured web UI. There were multiple efforts throughout the years but iirc they were not coordinated and didn't gather much momentum.

It's not too late to make another tool that can fit this niche. There's currently nothing that checks every box for me, especially when it comes to UX and security/privacy. I started designing an open source comms framework with a friend to fit this niche a decade ago and feel somewhat motivated to try again in the future.

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Post by grep_name »

opan wrote: post #328
grep_name wrote: post #322

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Yeah I'm planning to send both matrix and xmpp through bitlbee so I can use a terminal client as well (I know matrix has one technically but it is reeeeally crufty). I don't understand why every modern chat client has to be 99% empty whitespace separated by squircles.

matrix.org used to feature weechat-matrix among the recommended clients, but last I looked it wasn't there anymore. Dead project, probably. A shame.

I was going to use bitlbee, but it looks like matrix-purple lost e2ee support a couple years ago. That's really frustrating. I wonder how hard it would be to get it working again

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Post by akimbostrawman »

pyb wrote: post #109
aaravchen wrote: post #16

Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to…

How could Signal be considered privacy-conscious ? The first thing they do is ask for your phone number.

because privacy != anonymity e.g you have privacy in your home but everbody still knows you live there.

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Post by Arathorn »

grep_name wrote: post #474
opan wrote: post #328

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matrix.org used to feature weechat-matrix among the recommended clients, but last I looked it wasn't there anymore. Dead project, probably. A shame.

I was going to use bitlbee, but it looks like matrix-purple lost e2ee support a couple years ago. That's really frustrating. I wonder how hard it would be to get it working again

https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Chatty/-/tree/main/src/matrix... might be able to help you?

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Post by pcthrowaway »

some_furry wrote: post #463
pcthrowaway wrote: post #458

Why are Zulip and Mattermost not considered here? To be clear I am a former Mattermost user who would no longer recommend them, but considering Zulip now as a replacement

https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/6096 Still not implemented.

The post is "Discord alternatives" so it strikes me as strange for only E2EE capable chat apps to be supported.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Post by some_furry »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #478
some_furry wrote: post #463

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https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/6096 Still not implemented.

The post is "Discord alternatives" so it strikes me as strange for only E2EE capable chat apps to be supported.

No, it isn't.

Dang moved all the comments from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46979742 to this thread so now it's confusing.

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Post by zer0zzz »

rsynnott wrote: post #117
zer0zzz wrote: post #103

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Is it just element or matrix.org, but it feels so slow to me?

Element’s pretty not-great. FluffyChat is worth a go, despite the extremely silly name; much less clunky experience.

Yea fluffychat is way faster and it supports multiple logins.
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