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Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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And probably running on their macbooks...

Am a software engineer at Microsoft using a M3 MBP, opinions are my own and all. Honestly one (of many) reasons I opted to go through the exception process to request a macbook was the screen brightness. The fact you can run software to boost the screen to HDR brightness levels for SDR content is insanely useful for working outside.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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To further your argument, look at the XBOX. It is impossible to tell which is the latest model by name alone. Where the playstation is simple, the latest is the 5, the previous was the 4, and the one before that was the 3.

To be fair, only Sony follows a consistent naming convention. Nintendo's console names also defy any logic, as did Sega back in the day.

Nintendo's strategy isn't the absolute worst. They mostly just give new names to new console designs, with modifiers to specify next-gen-without-major-changes. So the SNES was a next-gen NES, the N64 was its own thing, the GameCube was its own thing, the Gameboy, Gameboy Color, and Gameboy Advanced were iterations on the same thing, DS, DSi, 3DS were all generation steps. WiiU was a next-gen Wii, Switch 2 is a next-gen Switch.

They probably should have called the WiiU the Super Wii or Wii 2 or something, but on the whole they've got a mostly coherent naming convention.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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You are describing everything Microsoft has done since at least the late 90s.

Things were named fine back then. Small Business Server, Office, Frontpage, Internet Information Server, Visual Studio...

That was back when they were going wild naming everything "Active". Active Desktop made sense, Active Directory? What made that "Active". ActiveMovie? It's just a video playing framework... ActiveX?? X?? ActiveSync, I don't want my sync to be active. ActiveStore was apparently a thing?

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Some musings from someone who has not worked in microsoft but has in big tech. This often happens because the people inside are incentivized to build their own empire. If someone comes and wants to get promoted/become an exec, there's a ceiling if they work under the an existing umberlla + dealing the politics of introducing a feature which requires dealing with an existing org. So they build something new. And the n…

Google Plus was the same. Lots of unrelated google products were temporarily branded as part of google plus for some reason, including your google account and google hangouts (meet).

That was a very intentional strategy. In hindsight, not a good one, of course, but Plus and its integration across the whole company was blessed by Page and Brin, who were quietly panicking that Facebook could eat Google's lunch by becoming the "start page of the Internet" the moment they integrated search. Which they never did and never appear to have wanted.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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I think the answer is pretty simple. It's pretty clear that Microsoft had "Everything must have Copilot" dictated from the top (or pretty close). They wanted to be all-in on AI but didn't start with any actual problems to solve. If you're an SWE or a PM or whatever and suddenly your employment/promotion/etc prospects depend on a conspicuously implemented Copilot thing, you do the best you can and implement a chat bot…

Having worked in large orgs, I can totally imagine someone having an idea like Claude Code and it getting quietly shelved because it (A) doesn’t align to some important persons vision, who is incentivized have their finger on whatever change comes about (B) might step on a lot of adjacent stakeholders, and the employees stakeholder may be risk adverse and want to play nice. (C) higher up stakeholder fundamentally don…

They have copilot-cli, which is something like Claude Code, it's actually pretty effective, at least more effective than Copilot+VSCode.

I think in the end it's branding. They want people to think "Copilot = AI" but the experience is anywhere from fairly effective to absolute trash. And the most visible applications are absolute trash. It really says something when Ethan Mollick is out there demonstrating that OpenAI is more effective at working with Excel than the built in AI.

There was an article posted here yesterday that said "MS has a lot to answer for with Copilot", and that was the point: MS destroyed their AI brand with this strategy.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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The Copilot-Cli is not so bad, https://github.com/features/copilot/cli

Agreed. I was an early adopter of Claude Code. And at work we only had Copilot. But the Copilit CLI isn't too bad now. you've got slash commands for Agents.MD and skills.md files now for controlling your context, and access to Sonnet & Opus 4.5. Maybe Microsoft is just using it internally, to finish copying the rest of the features from Claude Code. Much like the article states, I use Claude Code beyond just it's cod…

Same situation, once I discovered the CLI and got it set up, my happiness went up a lot. It's pretty good, for my purposes at work it's probably as good as Claude Code.

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Google has uncertain privacy settings, there is no declaration they won't train their LLM on your personal/commercial code.

https://macaron.im/blog/ai-assistant-privacy-comparison#:~:t... All providers are opt-out. The moat is the data, don't pretend like you don't know.

per my previous research there is no opt out for gemini cli.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

Xbox one series X

They sucks at names.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Oh no I just realized the next generation will be called Microsoft 365 Xbox Copilot

ROG Ally X vs. ROG Xbox Ally X. Also, it is possibly the worst console name of all time. I don't even know what Xbox is now, is it a service, is it a console, I'm not even joking really. Also visual studio code Vs full fat visual studio. Thanks Microsoft you just made it more difficult to web search both products. Full fat .Net Vs dotnet core Vs standard or is that .net.

There was also Visual Studio, the Mac app that got renamed and wasn’t the same as Visual Studio, the windows app

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

Can somebody give me a TLDR on what the "copilot button" does? I've never had one of those laptops and have never understood that. Does it just start the AI front-end? Does it power up the NPU?
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